Careful what you wish for. Equal outcomes... EVERYONE IS BANNED!Everybody should be made a moderator then, in the spirit of equity and inclusiveness.
Careful what you wish for. Equal outcomes... EVERYONE IS BANNED!Everybody should be made a moderator then, in the spirit of equity and inclusiveness.
Many years ago, I opted out of the local utility installing smart meters on my account.And for those lucky enough to “opt out” of “smart meters” is there an sure charge for opting out?
Luckily we only have AMR here, but there is talks of convincing the PUC Smart Meters are worth the $$$$.
Certainly not.I thought this was a free speech zone….
Shh, we don't talk about the chit chat section around these parts.. it'll scare away the new members ?There is always the Chit Chat section, which goes un-moderated.
Opt out of the Smart meter and you have to pay an extra $15 a month with Excel Energy.Many years ago, I opted out of the local utility installing smart meters on my account.
Why?
1. Because at the time, they offered no benefit to the consumer at all. None of the promised features or benefits actually worked at all. This was confirmed by the utility when I questioned them about the features. This was early in the rollout of smart meters.
2. Cost. There is/was no cost savings to change to a smart meter. The same monthly ($10.) charge is applied whether you have the smart meter or not.
3. I had real concerns the utility would use the smart meter to charge me more for my electricity in the future based upon peak usage. (change my rate) The utility had previously tried to change my home to a commercial account, in part due to high usage. I threatened to take them to court if they did and they backed down. No way was I going to give them the ability to observe my minute by minute electric usage with a smart meter.
All these years later, I still have my dumb meters and still pay the same $10/ month, the same as if I had a smart meter. I still believe I made the right decision for me.
Opt out of the Smart meter and you have to pay an extra $15 a month with Excel Energy.
I am speaking for friends only, but based solely on principle , I would gladly pay extra to keep unexpected people I didnt know from trampling around the property being snoopy to read the meter..Opt out of the Smart meter and you have to pay an extra $15 a month with Excel Energy.
The old meters are meshed, been decades since someone had to come on property to read meters.I am speaking for friends only, but based solely on principle , I would gladly pay extra to keep unexpected people I didnt know from trampling around the property being snoopy to read the meter..
im sure they would just ignore all the solar panels , electrical warning signs ,and odd home made looking electrical stuff Plugged up here and there..
it’s just no good to having strangers walking around yer place.
True AMI smart meter (live datalink to the utility)?Many years ago, I opted out of the local utility installing smart meters on my account.
Why?
1. Because at the time, they offered no benefit to the consumer at all. None of the promised features or benefits actually worked at all. This was confirmed by the utility when I questioned them about the features. This was early in the rollout of smart meters.
2. Cost. There is/was no cost savings to change to a smart meter. The same monthly ($10.) charge is applied whether you have the smart meter or not.
3. I had real concerns the utility would use the smart meter to charge me more for my electricity in the future based upon peak usage. (change my rate) The utility had previously tried to change my home to a commercial account, in part due to high usage. I threatened to take them to court if they did and they backed down. No way was I going to give them the ability to observe my minute by minute electric usage with a smart meter.
All these years later, I still have my dumb meters and still pay the same $10/ month, the same as if I had a smart meter. I still believe I made the right decision for me.
Well, the meters here were read manually until the smart meters went in, and that was just a couple of years ago. No electronics or networking at all before that. That's why they call them smart.The old meters are meshed, been decades since someone had to come on property to read meters.
Haaaa ….as of 7 years ago they used to pull up to my store and walk around to the side of the building to read the meter…I had two of them ….every month… had been doing it forever… now I did sell the store so I can’t say what they do now, ….I do know a few people out here that have been busted because the meter readers ratted them out for the smells emanating from their house ( pot) …The old meters are meshed, been decades since someone had to come on property to read meters.
AMI and AMR meters are two different thingsWell, the meters here were read manually until the smart meters went in, and that was just a couple of years ago. No electronics or networking at all before that. That's why they call them smart.
Sure. But we still had the old mechanical meters with the spinning dial and no electronics until the "smart" meters were installed.AMI and AMR meters are two different things
https://www.badgermeter.com/blog/amr-vs-ami-whats-the-difference/#:~:text=Advanced%20Metering%20Infrastructure%20(AMI),-Advanced%20metering%20infrastructure&text=Unlike%20AMR%2C%20AMI%20doesn't,utilities%20via%20a%20fixed%20network.
Lot of people see electronic meters and assume AMI.
I still have the old analog meters. Just last week they came out to read the meters. They come every month. A few years ago they tried skipping a month and just came every two months. I didn't know they skipped a month until I got a funny looking bill. Can't remember if it was too high or too low. I called to ask what was up with my bill and they told me they no longer read the meter every month and they just guess at the bill in the odd months. I told them if they are going to charge me for reading my meter every month (which they did) then they were going to come every month to read my meter. They have read my meter every month since that phone call.Sure. But we still had the old mechanical meters with the spinning dial and no electronics until the "smart" meters were installed.
How many of you guys remember party phone lines? I had 1 of those until the early 1990s when I moved and got a regular land line.