Depending on the AIO, the 8kW is more likely around a 6kVA…Actually you likely need bigger (unless you've de-rated your AIO), the 8000 kVA is 6.4 kW and 10 kVA is only 8 kW, lots of people often make that mistake, kVA is not the same as kW.
Depending on the AIO, the 8kW is more likely around a 6kVA…Actually you likely need bigger (unless you've de-rated your AIO), the 8000 kVA is 6.4 kW and 10 kVA is only 8 kW, lots of people often make that mistake, kVA is not the same as kW.
Yeah, I didn't look too hard at the Victron specs, just knew that expecting 8kW from that model was unlikely and it would require a higher spec (more $).Actually you likely need bigger (unless you've de-rated your AIO), the 8000 kVA is 6.4 kW and 10 kVA is only 8 kW, lots of people often make that mistake, kVA is not the same as kW.
I’d only buy it if it had those spring type terminals of the MPIIYeah, I didn't look too hard at the Victron specs, just knew that expecting 8kW from that model was unlikely and it would require a higher spec (more $).
My AIO will actually do 8 kW (not just 8 kVA) but anything over that for like 15 seconds and it will shut down. It's rated for only 10-seconds when > 110% of rated power (with other shorter duration peak specs).
Since my AC connections are only rated for 32 A/phase (which at 240 V is 7.7 kW), then having more single phase power capacity doesn't really help me. It's one reason why I didn't go with the 12kW Growatt but it may have been a better choice with more headroom to manage brief forays of high power. Our power demand has changed, as the cottage has had a change of occupancy after my mum died in early-2023.
The 12 kW 3-phase Deye would be better suited in my case but that's also expensive at A$6k.
I just don't see a suitable Victron model. They have announced a rack mount 3-phase inverter / solar charge controller, the Multi HS19 15kW
Not available for sale yet but my guess is we are talking well into 5 figure cost range and that would be absurd.
Oof.800V battery for the Multi HS19
That makes me cry. The cheapest I've seen in the USA is $1700 for that model. If I could find it for around $900 like that one, I would be all over it!The MP-II 5kVA is around 900 Euro including VAT here in Europe now: https://eu.nkon.nl/multiplus-pmp482505012-48v-70a.html
Ohhh, hopefully, this will show up soon at other distributors. Although I suppose I would need 2 of them to support 4 x 300Ah Trophy batteries.Found by another member:
Post in thread 'Luyuan battery case' https://diysolarforum.com/threads/luyuan-battery-case.44827/post-1068993
Class t power in finally revealed, m10 sizing, two inputs, two fuse holders. Would need to be used with an m10 distributor unless maybe you drilled the intermodule bolt holes out on a standard M8 distributor
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Will you move the fuses from existing holders or this is a new build?Ohhh, hopefully, this will show up soon at other distributors. Although I suppose I would need 2 of them to support 4 x 300Ah Trophy batteries.
It's new build haven't ordered anything yet. Upgrading a 16yr old Magnum MS4448PAE with FLA batteries.Will you move the fuses from existing holders or this is a new build?
Here in Estonia it will, including the 24V/2940Ah SOPzS Battery and more, I can even heat my House electric being Off-the-GridTry to build a 24kw victron system that will pay for itself in your lifetime.
You need class T with those FLA?It's new build haven't ordered anything yet. Upgrading a 16yr old Magnum MS4448PAE with FLA batteries.
I was just thinking this too.Sounds pricey, but also sounds like a pretty specific edge case that would be big time overkill for the vast majority of people. Under what conditions do you foresee needing 24,000W continuous?
It seems, you have installed a random system without thinking, because I run even a heavy duty ESAB Welding machine on three Victron MultiPlus-II 24/5000/120-70, heat a 200l Boiler (if it is completely emptid and has only a temperature of 10C it requires roughly 15kWh) with a 2x500W/24V Heating element where I mostly use only one and heat up this pig slowly at daytime. I have use in the winter a 4x Gas Cooker and in the Summer Induction Cooker. I run two Freezer Bozes 320l wit a Danfoss BD50F (12/24V), a Luxor Freezer 80l with a Danfoss BD35F (12/24V) a 240l Fridge 230V, a Convection Baking Oven 230V/2000W, an Air Condition 230V, Solar Well Pump for the irigation on 24V, Grundfoss Alpha Circulation Pumps 230V, etc.24kw max, about 5-6 continuous with 60kwh battery for: home electricity (workstation, cooking, hot water, 2 meat freezers), workshop electricity (lathe, milling machine, welding machine,... etc lights, computers), heating and ac of both places, electric car charging, external lights during the night, security and com systems...
I bought it on Amazon. Requests got routed directly fo Victron. It was not a good experience. Most of the places around here that sell Victron only sell a limited number of their products, none of them the autotransformer.
All Victron Quatro can be use parallel.Be careful, I don't think the 8kVA Quattro's can be paralleled like the 5, 10 and 15kVA can be