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Victron is Over-priced Eurotrash. Why would anybody buy Victron over an AiO?

Brucey said:
As you approach 1000 and beyond you'll notice the humming/vibration. Fan noise wasn't really objectionable to me, not high pitched or anything like that.
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I ran my 12/1200VA for over a hour at over 1100 watts and never heard/felt that but in all fairness my wife just the other day says I am going deaf. :sneaky:
 
I misspoke, looks like it's the 500VA and 1200VA units being released in 120V, with the 1200VA offering power assist (manual and data sheet don't seem to list how much assist is available/max output of grid plus battery)

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ricardocello said:
I believe GST 18 connectors they use for AC input and output are only rated for 16A, 20A max.
Fine for 230V europe, not good for 120V usa
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If the transfer switch is 16A, looks like it should be within limits. I.e. power from AC in being 16A, the rest provided by inverter/battery?
 
So just looking at the 500VA multiplus, basically comprises a 12/500 which is $147 and an IP22 12V 20A which is $152, so basically $300 in total. And the multiplus 500VA is $372. So $72 for the transfer switch and multiplus intelligence/control. Not bad.


For the multiplus 1200VA, 12/1200 is $334. Now the biggie here is the 50A charger. The Phoenix 50A charger goes for a hefty $474. So combined cost is $808, fair bit more than the $681 for the multiplus. Of course the 2000VA multiplus isn't far away at $910, with 30A transfer switch, but bigger form factor
 
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Brucey said:
So just looking at the 500VA multiplus, basically comprises a 12/500 which is $147 and an IP22 12V 20A which is $152, so basically $300 in total. And the multiplus 500VA is $372. So $72 for the transfer switch and multiplus intelligence/control. Not bad.


For the multiplus 1200VA, 12/1200 is $334. Now the biggie here is the 50A charger. The Phoenix 50A charger goes for a hefty $474. So combined cost is $808, fair bit more than the $681 for the multiplus. Of course the 2000VA multiplus isn't far away at $910, with 30A transfer switch, but bigger form factor
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Just close your eyes and hit the "Blue" button"............
 
Edphonse said:
I sold my jeep (cost me about $600/mo in just gas) and bought a tesla. I then bought 30kwh of eg4ll batteries, 2 eg4 6500ex inverters and 12x450 watt solar panels with the intention of using the money I saved on gas to pay for the system. Shortly after powering up the eg4 6500ex, I immediately hated everything about them; loud, runs REALLY hot, inefficient, 120/240v split phase kept losing sync with each other, and the software/solar assistant was just trash imo compared to VRM. I got rid of the 6500 ex and replaced them with 2x 5000va multi plus II and 1x smart solar 250/100. It cost me a little less than 2x as much as the 2 eg4ll. In total i spent about $11k for the initial set up but ended up at about $14k after the swap. (I have victron energy systems on my rv and loved the). The full system has been up for about 3 months now and I have been having to work on weekend, meaning driving more. I have saved around $2500 in gas so far by solar charging my car instead of gas for my jeep. So since my victron system was built to replace gas, and not the grid, the system will effectively be paid off by next year and every mile I drive after that will be "free." Sure, I could have charged from the grid and still saved a good majority of that, but then I wouldn't have my hobby/back up power when I lose power.
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You can keep your Tesla charged up with only 5400W of panels? Where do you live that you can get that much sun?
 
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Grimmster said:
You can keep your Tesla charged up with only 5400W of panels? Where do you live that you can get that much sun?
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Well with an average of 30kWh of sun, and 30kWh of battery, as long as he doesn’t drive more than 120 miles a day, he shouldn’t have issue charging with this setup.
 
740GLE said:
I’m guessing those two units won’t be used on the same system 😂
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Going to assemble a double conversion UPS in conjunction with an IP22 12/30 charger and a Redodo mini 12V 100Ah to replace a failing apc standby unit for network/router gear.
 
To funny l have the "Blue" inverter ( Off "Blue" solar ) connected to the power supply that in turn connected to the ( "Yellow" DIY bank ) So I can connect them together. Day two of retirement. Kinda fun to "Play" at leisure.
 
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