Bluetti AC200 & AC50S
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Same here. I was just clarifying what MBR posted by taking it directly from the source. I don't care if any of these solar chargers loose all of their capacity after 1 cycle as I intend to DIY...
I can't find any review for Monster X
Anyone have thoughts on the MONSTER X (https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/monster-x-the-future-of-portable-power-stations/x/24063745#/)
*2,000W AC Outputs (Surge 3,300W) | 1,600Wh | Solar Input | Lifetime Warranty
*equipped with UPS
*3000 cycles to 50%
*<28 lbs
Main downside is the 200W solar imput, but can take multiple input to charge at the same time.
* "MONSTER X can be recharged through 3 approaches: 200W DC, 400W AC, 200W solar input. Through the three input ways at the same time, it can be loaded to 80% in around 1.5 hours, and to 100% in roughly 2 hours. "
It's <$900 + shipping and includes 1x 100 watt solar panel
Anyone have thoughts on the MONSTER X (https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/monster-x-the-future-of-portable-power-stations/x/24063745#/)
*2,000W AC Outputs (Surge 3,300W) | 1,600Wh | Solar Input | Lifetime Warranty
*equipped with UPS
*3000 cycles to 50%
*<28 lbs
Main downside is the 200W solar imput, but can take multiple input to charge at the same time.
* "MONSTER X can be recharged through 3 approaches: 200W DC, 400W AC, 200W solar input. Through the three input ways at the same time, it can be loaded to 80% in around 1.5 hours, and to 100% in roughly 2 hours. "
It's <$900 + shipping and includes 1x 100 watt solar panel
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That one tempted me too. It does have everything I would want above all the rest. The problem I had was there was supposed to be a review on it over 2 months ago from someone they were supposed to send the unit to. My first thought was why are you not allowing others to review it, specifically Will? I read every comment from supporters asking questions on their indiegogo and found that Allpowers was completely ignoring and dodging questions. The comparison on transparency between Allpowers and Bluetti was like night and day. Heck even Ecoflow was much more transparent on kickstarter and they did send several units out for review including Will. And Will reviewed the Bluetti and was impressed with it. So....is Allpowers hiding something? Units have already been mass produced and shipped so why didn't they send some out for review? Oh....and their 300 watt battery upgrade for $65.00? I found that very odd as well.
I assume you want to use PV input port (700W max). Charging voltage on that port is 35-150V, so you need to upconvert alternator's output, if it's 12V or 24V. Since AC200 already has built-in MPPT charger, all you need is step up voltage converter. You don't need Renogy DC-DC charger.
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I don’t think that’s correct. My understanding is that the AC200 has two inputs, one for solar and one for an external battery/car alternator. Pretty sure that’s what Will showed in his video.
You are correct that AC200 has two inputs. One is 2-pin Aviation connector and used for solar (700W max), included car charger, or extra AC adapter with XT90 Connectors and Aviation plug SA201 cale ($110 option), but you can connect any DC power source to it as well, as long as you stay within 35-150V limit and support max 12A draw.
The other input port is 7909 transfer plug connector, and you normally connect included 400W AC adapter to it. They haven't published voltage limit on that port, but technically you can connect your own DC power source there as well. But presumably, this port has 400W max input, so it's better to use the other port if you want to maximize input. (Warning: the faster you charge, the faster you degrade battery.)
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Bluetti rep Zzola Fang replied to what are the specs on the LG pouch cells in the AC200.
it is NCA,
charge: 5c continuous,
discharge: 2c continuous,
Yep, 5C continuous charging so all you nervous nellies worried about a piddly 1200 watts of charging can sleep easy tonight.
it is NCA,
charge: 5c continuous,
discharge: 2c continuous,
Yep, 5C continuous charging so all you nervous nellies worried about a piddly 1200 watts of charging can sleep easy tonight.
solar_shedquarters
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If you read this thread you would know Bluettis claim of 2500 cycles was to 50% capacity.
Bluetti is now claiming 1200 to 1400 cycles to 80%
They are also saying that their LG cells are 5C charging capable so a slow 700 watt solar charge or even their 1200 watt max charge on the AC200 is going to extend the life.
GunsAblazin
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The AC200 seems really similar to Pecron's portable power stations.
The Pecron T3000 in particular (available on alibaba.com) has the AC200 beat in terms of value per dollar. Hope someone could compare them.
Amazon.com : pecron Portable Power Station, 2000W Output Power Backup Lithium-ion Battery, 110V Pure-sine Waveform with AC Outlet, 12V DC Cigar, QC3.0 USB, Solar Generator for Emergency Power (1886Wh) : Garden & Outdoor
Amazon.com : pecron Portable Power Station, 2000W Output Power Backup Lithium-ion Battery, 110V Pure-sine Waveform with AC Outlet, 12V DC Cigar, QC3.0 USB, Solar Generator for Emergency Power (1886Wh) : Garden & Outdoor
www.amazon.com
The Pecron T3000 in particular (available on alibaba.com) has the AC200 beat in terms of value per dollar. Hope someone could compare them.
Weighs the same but slow charging on solar (12 hours at 300watts ) and slow 120V
Says 36Voc min for solar but no max Voc input.
The AC200 looks superior even at list price of $1800 due to much faster charging which is why it is revolutionary with solar charging in 5 hours which can be one day.
Whats the point of having a battery that takes 2 days or more to charge?
I took a look at it and IMO the Bluetti wins hands down even at Bluetti's retail price. The only benefit I can see with the Pecron is the dolly comes with it. The Bluetti charges faster, has a longer cycle life, more options to monitor and change settings on the meter, and generally more features.
I don't know what you mean by the T3000, but if you are referring to the Q3000S, yes it has a higher battery capacity then the Bluetti but less features, and cost around $1000.00 more than Buletti's retail price.
GunsAblazin
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Thanks MBR and Gazoo. BTW the Pecron can take up to 700 watts of solar according to the Amazon description.
This is the T3000.
The details are hard to figure out on these Chinese products, and I'm sceptical of shopping on alibaba.com, but just wanted to bring it to people's attention. Amazon doesn't do a great job of showing obscure products in their search results.
This is the T3000.
240v Solar Power Station Universal Nfc Eg 008 100ah 200ah 3000w Portable Solar No Fuel Generator Energy Storage Unit Zinc Air - Buy Portable Solar Generator,Solar Generator,No Fuel Generator Product on Alibaba.com
240v Solar Power Station Universal Nfc Eg 008 100ah 200ah 3000w Portable Solar No Fuel Generator Energy Storage Unit Zinc Air - Buy Portable Solar Generator,Solar Generator,No Fuel Generator Product on Alibaba.com
m.alibaba.com
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