timselectric
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That's what they were counting on.This I did not know? I assumed they were American Veterans?
That's what they were counting on.This I did not know? I assumed they were American Veterans?
What we don't get is that your not Interested in buying a Sol-Ark yet you spend almost half your post bashing it. Why not move on and find a product that you like?Still not getting the point of this thread.
Everyone wants to deflect it to something else.
I already have one.What we don't get is that your not Interested in buying a Sol-Ark yet you spend almost half your post bashing it. Why not move on and find a product that you like?
Actually, what I don't get is how the OP got the wrong impression. Certainly not from the current website.Still not getting the point of this thread.
Everyone wants to deflect it to something else.
I don't know either.Actually, what I don't get is how the OP got the wrong impression. Certainly not from the current website.
I'll give them credit. They have cleaned up their website, quite a bit. I haven't looked at it for a couple of years. They just need to double check each page. And get rid of the last pieces of false information.Their website has changed much over the years. I can certainly see where people might get the impression from them that they are American Made. They seem to have gone down kind of a SignatureSolar path.. start small and DIY friendly, get larger, change focus away from DIY / smaller systems. They are both pretty good at marketing, that's for sure.
https://web.archive.org/web/20170615063846/https://www.portablesolarllc.com/
https://web.archive.org/web/20190104171438/https://www.sol-ark.com/
https://web.archive.org/web/20191203223825/https://www.sol-ark.com/
This one is where the American Made picture was from.
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"Disingenuous" is the right term. A high-end AIO designed and manufactured entirely in the US would probably be $20k. It just couldn't compete. There would be way too small a market for such a product. Certainly way too dear for the folk on diysolarforum.Don't lose sight of the difference between 'engineered', 'manufactured' and 'assembled'. Products are created, built, and distributed all over the place to take advantage of the economies of scale.
Anyone who says 'At any cost' is being disingenuous. "The data on that hard drive is extremely valuable, I don't care what it costs, lets send it off". "Okay, I need a cashiers check for $5000, this is non-refundable. Then it's going to cost another $100/MB for any recovered data up to a maximum of another $5000". "Say what? no way". "But you said you didn't care what it costs?". "Well yea but I thought it would be more like..."
Much of this stuff is engineered/prototyped here in the states from components manufactured overseas somewhere, Final assembly is generally close to where the bulk of the components come from if possible and the items are small. To beat tariffs, and actually save costs for bulky items which are hard to ship (a car for example) it will get assembled here in the US from the easier to ship smaller components made overseas. Supply chains went global years ago, what you probably want is something engineered and supported by a western based company. Apple doesn't have to build phones in China, it just helps keep the costs down. You are not going to by anything that has a semiconductor in it that wasn't made offshore. The bottom line is people in general will not pay 10 times as much just to say "It was 100% US made". We all care what it costs. Nor does it really benefit anyone to make something here that can be done for a fraction of the cost elsewhere. It's just being spiteful.
We should do here what we do best and most efficiently. If someone figures out a way to do that here in the US, then by all means, and we should always be looking for innovative ways to make it cost effective to do the work closer to home.
2020 was long after they released the 8K.Here is about what the American made award was for. Even our own government was duped........
Isn't that the point? You can't tell one way or another.. It falls under the category of "dark pattern" that intentionally misleads customers.They never said the Award was for the Inverter design
They "never said" lots of things, like the Veterans they were talking about being Chinese. Assuming @timselectric research is correct.2020 was long after they released the 8K.
They never said the Award was for the Inverter design, but it does once again prove that they have an active engineering team working on electronic designs.
That was an assumption on my part.They "never said" lots of things, like the Veterans they were talking about being Chinese. Assuming @timselectric research is correct.
Some “feat”2020 was long after they released the 8K.
They never said the Award was for the Inverter design, but it does once again prove that they have an active engineering team working on electronic designs.