How long can you (and your family) survive if the grid went down for an extended period?
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1978 the blizzard. 3 days no power. 2 elderly neighbors died. 2008 My neighborhood was hit by a tornado. No power for 7 days. I was last on the blick to get power. Those two incidents are why I have solar now. I'll survive as long as the inverter and batteries hold out. And there are always ways to make things work. ?
OffGridForGood
Catch, make or grow everything you can.
PEX will take freezing but the valves you put in the system will not.
I remember delivering milk and bread on snowmobiles then sitting on a drift looking across with power lines below me. And the tornado in Lynn.
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I was in Lima Ohio at the time. It was an interesting time to say the least. I thought I was back in Duluth MN. for a few months ?
I was west of Greenville.
teal95
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I grew up off of the south end of Lake Michigan just barely in the lake effect zone. I can remember a storm that after a week we were running low on milk and break so Mom called her sister. Her and her husband went to the grocery store and drove to 3 miles south of our house, unloaded the snowmobile and brought the food the rest of the way. Lake effect can have a rather sharp drop off line.
Daddy Tanuki
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I hate to bring this up but you guys realize that the government has diesel tanks that hold millions of gallons of fuel and never get emptied. we have one emergency (war stocks) tank at Yokosuka that holds 3 millions gallons of JP51 for the DDG's and it has not been filled or drained in the last 15 years. They had another one they had to emergency drain into bunker barges and the ships as it developed a leak and some holes. After a camera was dropped into the tank it was determined that 30+ years of neglect (not rotating fuel properly) had caused a 15x32 foot section to become riddled with small holes. they drained it off into bunker barges and the ships themselves , used it, rebuilt the tanks and then refilled them. yes they should be rotating the fuel, but they do not as they are lazy over paid GS civilians running it.
so diesel in any of its permutations is extremely stable. just keep moisture out or you will get algae in the tanks.
so diesel in any of its permutations is extremely stable. just keep moisture out or you will get algae in the tanks.
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All good things must come to an end.
Daddy Tanuki
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trust me its one of the reasons that DLA and USFJ have went hog nuts on fixing all of the tanks and pipelines. they know its going to cause issues.All good things must come to an end.
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But I'm thinking biofuel instead of Dinodiesel left in the tanks for 15 years might not work out so well.
Stocks ought to be rotated. Grocery stores fill refrigerator cabinets from the back (so I reach back to get fresher ones.)
My home cabinets, some things in back haven't seen the light of day in over two decades.
For fuel, if it could remain stratified, fill from top, draw from bottom, that could provide rotation.
Maybe the thing to do is have a row of tanks. Always suck one empty, move on to the next. Refill takes up the rear.
Stocks ought to be rotated. Grocery stores fill refrigerator cabinets from the back (so I reach back to get fresher ones.)
My home cabinets, some things in back haven't seen the light of day in over two decades.
For fuel, if it could remain stratified, fill from top, draw from bottom, that could provide rotation.
Maybe the thing to do is have a row of tanks. Always suck one empty, move on to the next. Refill takes up the rear.
Daddy Tanuki
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everybody is expecting issues with the bio fuel that's why the US government got the Japanese government to start rebuilding all the fuel facilities here on mainland and Kyushu.
That is a common stereotype of firearms enthusiasts used by the leftist anti-gun crowd. Those that actually know anything about firearms don't read guns and ammo. You might see a copy of Handloader or Rifle. As far as the .243 Winchester, it's fine for deer and varmints, (with the right bullets) but entirely inadequate and inhumane for anything larger, like elk, moose, etc. But I think you may already know that.
If you can actually hit things, a .22LR headshot will do nicely on a deer. Wouldn't attract attention, either.
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Poachers weapon of choice.
Daddy Tanuki
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"FREE THE ENSLAVED PIXIES! LET THE SMOKE OUT! " some people you just can't reach....Poachers weapon of choice.
42OhmsPA
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Remington 597 with a free floated barrel and trigger job does wonders for groundhogs getting to close to the ground mount.
Brett V
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I’m old school I guess.
.22LR for small 4 legged critters, 30-30 for big 4 legged critters, and 12ga #1 shot for 2 legged critters..
.22LR for small 4 legged critters, 30-30 for big 4 legged critters, and 12ga #1 shot for 2 legged critters..
Q-Dog
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12ga is fine for us too.
Mike 134
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This popped up on my new posts, so I'll answer. We would survive as long a time period as my great grand father did, and my great great grandfather before him...........and his ............so on and so on............
42OhmsPA
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I prefer 30-06 but wouldn't mind having a 30-30 lever action Marlin.
Had a squirrel on the roof this morning, heard it under the array. .177 sounds like fun on a Sunday.
Had a squirrel on the roof this morning, heard it under the array. .177 sounds like fun on a Sunday.
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Did they live in "Chicagoland"?
Brett V
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It was 1974, I worked a whole summer pumping gas to save up and buy my Marlin 30-30 used from a local hunting shop. The guy there held it for most of 6 months with a sold tag on it until I could save enough. I have very few possessions which hold as much sentimental value.
marionw
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Just wait folks. Something big is going to happen in the September/October time frame that will disrupt the November general elections.
Possibly something big enough that the current administration locks everything down and possibly suspends the "writ of habeas corpus" as President Lincoln did during the civil war.
Possibly something big enough that the current administration locks everything down and possibly suspends the "writ of habeas corpus" as President Lincoln did during the civil war.
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This is probably true for most who live in 3rd world conditions. Little to no change. For the western world. Not so much.
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