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Prepping for impending grid outage

My uncle was a doctor and the director for the Red Cross in his town. He worked countless hours in the last 3 years to help people who were afflicted with covid. His wife complained to me several times that he works way too much and only comes home to sleep. He worked from 6am to 10pm, 7 days a week. He didn't work so many hours because the hospital was empty. It was full and overflowing. She worried tremendously about him and rightfully so. And his thanks for all the sacrifice? People who say he did it all for nothing. He died last year from covid. He's the youngest of all of my uncles. All of his older brothers and sisters are still alive. He should not have died. But he died saving people, even people who didn't want to be saved or deserved to be saved. I'm not as nice a guy as my uncle. I would not have done the same.

It really sickens me to hear people who suggest that my uncle who dedicated his life to help people and gave up his life in doing so that he didn't have to do it at all because it was all fake.

I'm not here to convince anyone of anything. You believe what you want to believe. As I said, I'm not as nice a guy. I will not have sympathy for people who do not deserve it.
 
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Why are you here then? This forum is the authority on all things solar. It's not the absolute authority, but we all come here anyway to get what we need and give back when we can.

I did not address a single thing you said because you are not the authority on covid.
Strangers on an Internet forum are authority on all things solar? What about electricians and inspectors? So-called authorities here are always disagreeing with their decisions WRT solar.
 
Strangers on an Internet forum are authority on all things solar? What about electricians and inspectors? So-called authorities here are always disagreeing with their decisions WRT solar.

This forum is more of an authority on solar than the Starwars forum or the Tesla motors club forum, wouldn't you say? If you're grasping at absolutes, you can find every excuse in the world. "Oh, toothpicks kill people... because one guy accidentally swallowed a toothpick and it killed him." Or "the polio vaccine killed this kid because he had a reaction." I had the polio vaccine as a kid. It didn't kill me. And what about the millions and millions of kids that it helped? If you want to argue in absolutes, we can go on forever and ever and ever and ever and ever. I can find every excuse in the world just as much as you can.
 
I have owned the Pro Pur , Berkey and the Alexapure ..over the last 15 years… for the last 7 years I have two alexapure so they both use the same filters.I use them to filter my well water. It’s
not really needed but I still do it …sometimes minor sediment be an issue if not filtered..

I have 2 military/ Red Cross Katadynes …some smaller portable camp filters and and a few of the ultraviolet pocket purifiers…I have never had a RO unit….That’s a different breed of cat…
I understand water filters practical use and limits pretty well…they all have limits..and one needs to know them.

They are all rather expensive.. and filter replacement cost is a bear…

I like thevAlexipure best for counter top because of the short gravity block filters and addition head pressure they create ( less filter time) … they also hold 4 filters not 3 like most…long story short, I don’t trust any thing that avoids discussing virus prevention unles I know it. … they all do most bacteria but some don’t do virus… most of these I have do..

If with out a filter ,there are many ways to purify most water saftly …that requires some reading and research………boiling , sand filters , Clorox, packaged tablets, sunlight and more…look it up..

It all gets down to how close to death you get from dehydration as to what you will probably be willing to drink…
Prepare ahead so you don’t have to make tough choices..plan on about 300 - 400 bucks for a good one with a couple of filters and a 2.5 gallon water tank...the more filters the longer it lasts…and faster it fills… extra filters run about 75 dollars each +/- …ouch..
My patriots supply has been a good source for me..Amazon has them too.
 
If there is an actual EMP, our solar equipment doesn't matter. Even for us who are offgrid.

The rest of society is done for.

Our gear just prolongs our survival and makes us a target... if our gear actually still works.

Am I wrong?
 
This forum is more of an authority on solar than the Starwars forum or the Tesla motors club forum, wouldn't you say? If you're grasping at absolutes, you can find every excuse in the world. "Oh, toothpicks kill people... because one guy accidentally swallowed a toothpick and it killed him." Or "the polio vaccine killed this kid because he had a reaction." I had the polio vaccine as a kid. It didn't kill me. And what about the millions and millions of kids that it helped? If you want to argue in absolutes, we can go on forever and ever and ever and ever and ever. I can find every excuse in the world just as much as you can.
Right. People who have done the research into Solar for themselves and now pass that knowledge along to others here. Just like others who have done the same for Covid. Not authorities: electricians nor doctors, etc.
 
About the same people that die from flu every year died from COVID-19… But miraculously, nobody was dying from the flu during that time.
They were all wearing masks and distancing, which (amazingly enough) helps prevent viral transmission. Even if it's "just" the flu. One reason doctors often wear masks when dealing with sick people.
 
Yes, our own governments are our worst enemy. The totally unnecessary lockdowns caused far more suffering than their non-existent virus, and their fraudulent PCR 'test'. We know that the whole thing was a scam, for one simple reason: thousands of 'unvaccinated' people are NOT dying every month in any country on Earth: so what happened to the 'deadly virus'?
We're largely immune to it now, since 99% of the people in populated areas are either vaccinated or have gotten it. This is exactly what we expected would happen.
 
I have owned the Pro Pur , Berkey and the Alexapure ..over the last 15 years… for the last 7 years I have two alexapure so they both use the same filters.I use them to filter my well water. It’s
not really needed but I still do it …sometimes minor sediment be an issue if not filtered..

I have 2 military/ Red Cross Katadynes …some smaller portable camp filters and and a few of the ultraviolet pocket purifiers…I have never had a RO unit….That’s a different breed of cat…
I understand water filters practical use and limits pretty well…they all have limits..and one needs to know them.

They are all rather expensive.. and filter replacement cost is a bear…

I like thevAlexipure best for counter top because of the short gravity block filters and addition head pressure they create ( less filter time) … they also hold 4 filters not 3 like most…long story short, I don’t trust any thing that avoids discussing virus prevention unles I know it. … they all do most bacteria but some don’t do virus… most of these I have do..

If with out a filter ,there are many ways to purify most water saftly …that requires some reading and research………boiling , sand filters , Clorox, packaged tablets, sunlight and more…look it up..

It all gets down to how close to death you get from dehydration as to what you will probably be willing to drink…
Prepare ahead so you don’t have to make tough choices..plan on about 300 - 400 bucks for a good one with a couple of filters and a 2.5 gallon water tank...the more filters the longer it lasts…and faster it fills… extra filters run about 75 dollars each +/- …ouch..
My patriots supply has been a good source for me..Amazon has them too.
Good information and I thank you for sharing your experience. For me, the counter top gravity filter is a backup only to buy some time in the event of a problem with my well. I have some redundancy in my home heating, food storage, and off grid power, but the one single point failure I have is the well. If the submersible pump fails, I need to fill the gap until I can replace it. I live near a world class trout stream and would feel fairly comfortable using it for drinking water with the Berkeley or Alexapure. Rainwater is also an option and maybe a better idea since farming chemicals could be present in the stream water. Since it’s not a primary system, the cost of filter replacement isn’t a big problem. As a plan B device, the countertop filter systems seem I offer a reasonable short term solution.
 
I have enough heirloom and freedom seeds. As long as I continue to have water, I’ll be fine (or I won’t be and it won’t matter 🤣)
This is close to home, local ER is notorious for dehydration as the cause of everything they can't diagnose. Hang an IV for 30 mins. All better release 'em. Follow up care: drink plenty of fluids....
 
We're largely immune to it now, since 99% of the people in populated areas are either vaccinated or have gotten it. This is exactly what we expected would happen.
The covid "vaccine" did not stop transmission, it is a non-sterilizing shot. It was not designed to stop, nor tested for transmission. All that information it out here if you care to search. But hey, as a poster above said, we all believe what we want to believe.
 
My opinion is if a nuclear weapon is fired over the U.S. then there would be a massive retaliatory response. Fallout everywhere. Our rivers and streams full of radiation. Wildlife dies and then much later most of us. Not going to prepare for that with an EMP shield. Unless you have years of food, because that is how long it will be before we can grow our own we are doomed. I'm preparing for the grid failure scenario where 90% of the population is gone in a year. Better odds I feel but what do I know! Funny how 3 years has turned into us fearing nukes again!
Actually hydrogen bombs of this area don’t have the fallout like you are thinking of. Of course some backwater country that’s just got into the nuclear game would. But for example Russian nukes are the more powerful hydrogen bomb, devastating but minimal fallout. Neil Degrasse Tyson talks about this.
 
The USA death rate increased from 2.85 in 2019 pre-covid to 3.04 in 2020 the first year of covid pre vaccine. In 2021-2022, the death rate continued to climb to 3.44 (high vaccine use years), and in 2023 declined to 3.15 (people no longer getting the vaccine).

While covid itself has an affect, it is not unreasonable to ask the question if vaccines helped or hurt.
 
I Avoided the vax because it was untested (except on the populace). Glad I did. I don't need any nasty clots or other nasty side-effects caused by my body now seeing itself as the source of the virus. Brilliant idea to give your body some blueprints how to manufacture something bad, and then the body goes hey that is where the bad stuff comes from, get it! Duh...

There are reasons vaccines are supposed to be tested for years. And then you throw new tech in there, and wow what did you expect?

Yes I got COVID. Yeah, it sucked. It was like the horrible flu I had back in college. Felt like I got run over, 103 fever, just totally blah. But I got over it. Yes others died from complications from it (just like people do not die from the flu, but from complications caused by it). Yes that sucks. But the hyper overreaction to it was nuts. Useful though to control the population with lockdowns and things. But now they've wrecked their credibility - the number of people who no longer trust the CDC and FDA and others is staggering.

Then they want to use this mRNA stuff for other things now. Um, NO thank you.
 
Good information and I thank you for sharing your experience. For me, the counter top gravity filter is a backup only to buy some time in the event of a problem with my well. I have some redundancy in my home heating, food storage, and off grid power, but the one single point failure I have is the well. If the submersible pump fails, I need to fill the gap until I can replace it. I live near a world class trout stream and would feel fairly comfortable using it for drinking water with the Berkeley or Alexapure. Rainwater is also an option and maybe a better idea since farming chemicals could be present in the stream water. Since it’s not a primary system, the cost of filter replacement isn’t a big problem. As a plan B device, the countertop filter systems seem I offer a reasonable short term solution.
Thanks , but what I said was a very brief outline of an immensely complex issue..it is a social and political issue in many places even in the USA and should be kept sorta secret as to what you have…or can do , as water will become 10x as valuable as food if a bad social event or grid down event ever happens.

I didn’t even touch on 99% of what should be known about water safty or waterborne illness or how to pre-treat , storeage , prevent fouling and a ton of things …plus there’s a lot I don’t know..
But I know enough to last along time

This topic should be researched and properly understood ..before there’s a problem ..
Most all solutions are pretty simple and cheap , IF you know about them and WHAT to do.

With that said I will touch on couple of key points you mention that are importent .

All surface water should be considered dangerous Untill more is known.

A known well is 100x times safer than most any unknown source of surface water…a well is an huge asset but they too can go bad ..have some 20.00 test kits stored for testing the well if periodically ..they recommend every year to or less depending on where you live…and how deep it is …what’s in your area…. Etc…

Depending on the well depth consider having a manual way to access water in dire times. It’s possible to have supplemental electrical pumping on some wells ..

Have a big water tank of good water stored and treated for storage to draw from if needed for drinking ..I have one ..I drain an treat and refill once a year.. My wife and I can Go a year at least without having to go find good drinking and cooking water…

I probably wont need it but it’s there as a back up..

I personally would not trust an unknown surface water source to only treatment by a counter top unit unless I had no choice …even then I’m treating it afterwards with Clorox or other things..

That’s why I have other ways to pre-treat my drinking water. Then put it through the countertop units to be more assured of safty…Some pathogens in water can kill or disable you very quickly ..

I had a friend who drank from a familiar creek while hunting here in the mountains died from liver failure ( that was cause of death) as an animal had died upstream in the water and fouled the water .

No I dont feel safe using 10 dollar water straws…unless I had no choice.they may help , but they may not…I want better stuff personally

Clorox is your best friend at 5 dollars a gallon if you know how to use it properly , boiling is great but harder to do on the fly or without a good heat source…

The pocket Katadnye maybe one of the best investments a man can own…it’s a very high quality small hand held device made for professional needs ..it’s been used for decades world wide by every country …mine will clean 13,000 gallons on one filter , about the size of a small subway sandwich and cleanable and repairable in the field..it makes a quart a minute ….I got my first one in 1995 ..it’s about 150 to 300 dollars depending where and which model… they do make cheaper ones the last time I looked..

Good sediment and charcole or coconut taste filters can help make bitter water sweet and free of grit and then be treated by a additional filter for safty…

very small micron filters I use on my well do a great job for sediment and fractional or sub fractional micron filters can get rid of bacteria viruses. A three ot 4 stage filter can do it all with different step in the filtering process.. they are not cheap but work well ..

If unsure ,12 drops of Clorox per gallon is recommended for killing pathogens but YMMV, depending on the original condition if the water…and if the Clorox is fresh… put it in stirr it and let it sit 30 min..If you can’t smell the Clorox afterwards , do it again…..
IF you can smell it your Ok in most cases.. if it’s under 6 months old ..

If its older you should adjust the number of drops as it looses its strength with time …get rid of any Clorox over a year , or go do some extra laundry or somthing..

You can use the pre package tablets of various types to pre treat …and then go filter it …bacteria, viruses , cysts , heavy metals , chemicals , poisons and run off chemicals need to be considered and addressed especially if in poor health anyway… if your already dehydrated , you do NOT want to develop diareaha or stomach issues ..it might take you out.

Rain water can be gathered but needs to be treated for the roof or surface contaminants, bugs , bird poop , chemicals from shingles.

The main problem is without good testing you don’t know what it needs… being clear or not smelling bad only tell you a small amount of what you may need to do…and sometimes smelling bad is perfectly safe…( some coastal beaches city water....ha)…

Seeing your dog drink it ok means nothing toward your safty, while if he dies or gets sick from drinking it , it certainly tells you somthing .
It’s very confusing…and in an emergency situation it will be 1000 times worse among the masses .

we take water for granted…we don’t even think about not having it , yet it ranks only behind AIR as the most valuable thing we need…

food is way down the list .

Most people have
2 - 3 minutes without air…
2 - 3 days without water …
2 -3 weeks with out food ..
If under stress or exertion , less ..

Many books are written on this topic…..there’s just to much info to know unless one works at learning it .

But …to sum up some stuff…

I would double treat my water UNLESS it’s from a friendly well..or known spring.. sample it in small amount for a few hours ….even a day
do you suffer effects… ? Remember ole Montezuma…..and his revenge ..😁

Have ways to disinfect containers if possible.

Keep quiet about what you have ..

Always remember marketing people promote their products to sell them…not to protect you..
Do not believe everything you read in this “ world wide economy “ ..or Amazon type places.
Buy good stuff ,

If one “just has to buy cheapo products “ online from our neighbors famous for cheapo stuff then I say
Let the Buyer Beware….
And then boil that shit before you drink it…

J.
 
What symptoms did they die from? The statistics speak for themselves - the average age of those dying 'from' or 'with' COVID was the same as the average life expectancy. Therefore there was no 'pandemic'.
Again I ask: why aren't thousands of 'unvaccinated' people dying from COVID every month? Millions of people in the U.K. are 'unvaccinated' - why aren't they dying in large numbers? Where did the 'deadly virus' go?
They drowned in their own fluids ... struggling to breathe for over a week through lungs filled with mucus and puss, as their families watched them through a window in the ER.
 
They drowned in their own fluids ... struggling to breathe for over a week through lungs filled with mucus and puss, as their families watched them through a window in the ER.
Didn’t the staff put them on ventilators?
 
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