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New 10kw NHX AIO From Watts247

Im very seriously looking at a victron setup. I dont need zero export, I export maximally to the grid, but I hadnt seen this 400/w per second spec. that seems very slow. do you have a link?


absolute zero export is not possible. many of the hybrids have a setting to pull wattage from the grid to prevent this. why not get an interconnect agreement with the poco? do they make it difficult?
No, Victron is great from what I read. Yes, you can specify a buffer... But if I turn off a 5000 watt load, and the multiplus can't change faster than 400w/s, then it will take a large buffer to prevent backfeeding some.
 
Yeah I mention which settings have to be enabled for that to work with grid. Essentially self consumption and “sell back” even though you aren’t selling back. And then you can choose your wattage limit. From what Ian said it can power loads. Those inverters just don’t like each other for some reason. He has other 10k’s hooked that way and it works.

The “sell back” option just enables self consumption mode.
 
Yeah - here's a link. https://community.victronenergy.com/questions/158039/multiplus-ii-ess-400w-restriction.html
You can also just search for: victron 400w per second ramp

Thanks! While looking through the document I found out I can use ess to sell from battery to grid. I didn't know that functionality already existed. Sweet!
I really wanted to go with Victron for the quality and longevity. But I don't want to wrestle with the system to get it to do what I want. I want:
- Use all available solar to directly offset loads
- Fill in the gap with Utility
- Choose what level I want the battery participate in offsetting loads

Looks like it can do all those things.
Victron can do that with ESS, but if we are concerned with tripping our electric meters and getting a visit/phone call from the company, then I need better than 400w/s change in feed-in.

I don't know of any zero export system that won't export a little bit. Do you? Any zero export system will get you a call from your poco
Hoping I don't regret my decision. I was impressed with Ian's video, and his answers to my questions.
 
Yeah I mention which settings have to be enabled for that to work with grid. Essentially self consumption and “sell back” even though you aren’t selling back. And then you can choose your wattage limit. From what Ian said it can power loads. Those inverters just don’t like each other for some reason. He has other 10k’s hooked that way and it works.

The “sell back” option just enables self consumption mode.
Ok I don't really understand why sell back has to be selected.

Could I ask you to please try it one more time when pv is not available? Do you have the CTs connected?
 
absolute zero export is not possible. many of the hybrids have a setting to pull wattage from the grid to prevent this. why not get an interconnect agreement with the poco? do they make it difficult?
Not interested in an interconnect agreement.

If I have to, I can use a double pole transfer switch but that will not allow grid assist.
 
Why not???
I don't have a reason to interconnect. My system in my house is off grid and the system for the shop will be off grid, I'm only interested in grid assist but if necessary I can do without grid assist.

I will have 144 Kwh of battery power here when finished, I don't need an interconnection agreement.
 
I don't have a reason to interconnect. My system in my house is off grid and the system for the shop will be off grid, I'm only interested in grid assist but if necessary I can do without grid assist.

I will have 144 Kwh of battery power here when finished, I don't need an interconnection agreement.
If you had an interconnection agreement then you wouldn't have to worry about zero export. That alone would be reason enough for me
 
Ok I don't really understand why sell back has to be selected.

Could I ask you to please try it one more time when pv is not available? Do you have the CTs connected?

Yeah I tried with and without PV. The sell back option basically allows the inverter to grid assist. So instead of sell back it should be labeled “enable” or something probably.
 
Ian mentioned he does have video of these aspects also. So hopefully he will work on posting those as well.
 
If you had an interconnection agreement then you wouldn't have to worry about zero export. That alone would be reason enough for me
I'm probably installing a 200A transfer switch on the outside of the shop with a main panel. Currently wires run thru a LB thru the wall right into the main breaker panel and wires won't be long enough. Using the EG4 18Kpv with built in transfer switch would require a side tap but inside space is also limited in some respects. I want the ability to switch completely back to grid bypassing any inverter is the main reason, I run a business here and if something goes down, I need the ability to make a quick switch.

When I started this I had already looked at grid tie in the past. My brother runs a 17.5Kw wind charger with grid tie and he got screwed when the rules were changed even with a signed interconnection agreement. Around here many farmers installed grid tie and in the last 2 years those agreements have changed and the state utility board allowed it. No thanks, I built my system for off grid with grid backup. If they don't like it, I can shut down the grid at my meter as this acreage has a 400A transfer switch on the pole when I moved here. I'll just install a genny for those times of lean PV and run totally off grid.
 
Getting tired of waiting for the next best thing to come out. Sent Watts an email. Maybe he can make another sale.


Definitely let us know if you pull the trigger. I want see/read more people talking about their specific installs with this. Considering the outdoor rating also this thing is nice unit. Even if you’re keeping it indoors no filters or dust issues. The fans blow through the back chamber over the heat sink’s. Similar to the 18kpv. Except this blows sideways.
 
Definitely let us know if you pull the trigger. I want see/read more people talking about their specific installs with this. Considering the outdoor rating also this thing is nice unit. Even if you’re keeping it indoors no filters or dust issues. The fans blow through the back chamber over the heat sink’s. Similar to the 18kpv. Except this blows sideways.
Mine should arrive next Thursday. Ordered yesterday.
 
Yes - I want to have it supply solar to cover my loads and feed Grid power in as needed - which it can do. Additionally, I want to backfeed my home grid to do zero export if possible. I mean I know it does that - but I am cautious about any backfeed that the meter can detect.

To clarify, I want a critical loads panel on load1 and feed back to the grid via the grid connection for zero export. That way when the power does go out, my critical loads are still covered.
 
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