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The cost in $ I’m sure is lower.
How about time?
Half price electric cars
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How about time?
Too much Santa Claus and not enough Grinch.
Need to tax the bad more than provide incentives on the good.
I believe a $1,000 tax per cylinder would do more than the $7,500 EV credit.
Checkthisout
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Yeah but let's not ignore what's happening with other manufacturers and their EV lines.
solarDavesolar
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I'd consider a fisker at half price. You can charge it off sunlight and the tailgate window rolls down. And if I'm not wrong, it has that specific slice of the market cornered!
same reason why people don't buy 50lb bags of beans.. up front cost looks too much and they are scared of the fiber
yea fines etc should be % of revenue
won't happen like it was in USA's prime ever again though, corporate is too invested into politics now
They're growing? cuz overall, all of them are still growing.
somehow..
and stalling with pushing out cars because they computerize too much crap and have to wait
obviously people aren't like me and stick with their car for 30 years
sales keep going up up and away
I sure as hell tell everyone to avoid tesla and any other luxury anything though, so not that surprising they're going lower
Wish the chinese actual mopeds (with pedals and motors) were legal in the states
Ampster
Renewable Energy Hobbyist
Time? You mean how long did those drives take? Not much longer than in a gas car. I am old and have to pee every two hours and stretch my legs or I get stiff. By the time I have done that the car is charged and I am ready to got to the next stop. My wife did get a speeding ticket in Wyoming for going 95MPH while I was sleeping in the front seat. We also found a lot of Superchargers near restaurants so by the time we had a bite to eat the car was charged. Superchargers are everywhere along the Interstates.
Ampster
Renewable Energy Hobbyist
It is all here in this thread. I attribute it to the natural resistance to change. Same thing happened with the horse and buggy. There are still people in parts of this country driving a horse and buggy.
Just drive through it all and never pull over "oh yea I visited!"
sounds very american
bonus points & even better: drive through it with autopilot on while sleeping
Sure they were...
Dodge made them... sortof...
Well, 82 was the first chevy i guess... diesel cars were a thing in 78, i had one.
Looks like trucks didnt get one till 82.
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Ampster
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It depends on who you talk to and who you are talking about. Tesla is doing fine and has no problem dropping prices to keep volume up. That is a good thing for EV adoption. The Korean cars seem to be selling well. Detroit seems to be in a tough transition.
There were in 1970s, chevy came out with theirs in 1982.. looks like ford did as well
but GM had them as well in 1978
Even dodge had one:
robby
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Are you sure about that?
I am hearing some Gossip from my old friends in engineering that Musk is having a lot of financial issues.
It would not be surprising considering EV sales have dropped and Starlink/SpaceX is losing money on every Falcon 9 launch with Starlink Satellites.
He is most certainly in the heavy spending phase when it comes to Starlink and he has burned a lot of cash on that Stupid X platform.
Still, id like to own a thousand shares of spacex
Ampster
Renewable Energy Hobbyist
All I know is that the Model Y is the best selling car in several markets. I do see Tesla is advertising on the Internet. I have four tenants who work at SpaceX and they are still paying rent early or on time. No doubt Musk blew a lot of money on X and his politics may be costing Tesla some sales. You could be right and that is the tip of the iceberg. I have followed some of the Tesla teardowns and the constant improvement and cost reductions may give them a strategic advantage in this soft market.
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Brucey
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The price per kWh when doing DC fast charging is generally much higher than your residential rate, presumably due to demand charges being paid to the utility. Delta differs a fair bit based on location/state.
California rates especially seem crazy high:
Found this site for prices in Europe:
Oh, for sure, the charging stations are a profitable business.
Of course it is higher than residential power at home.
Its faster, and available away from home, so it costs more.
Ampster
Renewable Energy Hobbyist
Yes, I think that is a big factor. I was surprised at my apartment in which the house meters were subject to demand charges and a tenant started charging his Chevy Volt.
Doggydogworld
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There are plenty of solar mandates at the utility level. That's the main reason you can buy panels for $0.30/W instead of $30.
CA mandated all new houses have solar. Though there are loopholes.
Solar also benefits from large subsidies. Always has.
No US state bans ICE (internal combustion engine) cars. A couple have non-binding "resolutions" to stop new ICE sales by 2035. Even if those don't get extended or watered down (narrator: they will), you can still drive your 2034 Canyonero well into the 2060s. Maybe not in certain cities after 2050, but that's no loss. As Fox News explains anyone driving into a liberal big city is instantly murdered by a fentanyl-crazed illegal immigrant anyway.
Tulex
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Sorry, but I don't include CA in any discussion, they don't represent the norm.
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