Brucey
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With just the Trophies to communicate with the gx mk1 should be fine.Figuresā¦the day I order my Cerbo GX
Victron is Over-priced Eurotrash. Why would anybody buy Victron over an AiO?
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NC_hydro
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Yeah it will be.
OffGridIdaho
Hobby Farm in N Idaho
Yeah but..........Thats bad math. Kinda like saying Diet coke causes obesity cause you only see fat people drinking it.
Your jeep was the problem not the gas bill. I drive a Honda civic and use 80/month. I got the car 10 years ago and paid 19k (how much tesla?). I now have 300k on car and going strong with ZERO repairs. Say that when and IF the one trick pony makes it to 300k which it wont! How much was the tesla again? Add tesla 90k + 14k in solar + tesla repairs + tesla new battery in 151k. Plus another new tesla when that one breaks and it will. You have a huge bill that will never be paid off. Remember I am paying 80/month. It was 40 under trump. If I wanted to get stupid and save money I would buy a hybrid like a Prius. They used Priuses as Taxis in New York and some made it to 650k miles. They get 65mpg or better. If you bought a used one and got 65mpg it would take 1,000 years to payoff that tesla and solar.
Rant over.........
wattmatters
Solar Wizard
That would be an outlier. What proportion of Honda Civic's with 300,000+ miles have not needed repairs?
Hedges
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200k to 300k typical (doesn't say what repairs)
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500k not unheard of.
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Mine is at 300k, has had a couple repairs. Opened transmission to replace a bearing. Think it has a head crack now so running unpressurized (maybe should have replaced radiator cap every time I replaced coolant.) Plus of course alternator, I think starter, A/C, timing belt & water pump 3 times now.
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500k not unheard of.
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Mine is at 300k, has had a couple repairs. Opened transmission to replace a bearing. Think it has a head crack now so running unpressurized (maybe should have replaced radiator cap every time I replaced coolant.) Plus of course alternator, I think starter, A/C, timing belt & water pump 3 times now.
wattmatters
Solar Wizard
I guess if we are looking for outliers:
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Replaced the battery at 666,666km under warranty.
OK, that's all OT.
Australian Tesla clocks 700,000 km, still saving $20,000 a year in service and fuel costs
An Australian Tesla owner has driven over 700,000 km in his 2018 Model S, and says heās saving around $20,000 per year on fuel and maintenance costs. The Driven first reported on Nigel Raynard in July 2021 when the odometer on his Model S passed the 400,000 km mark, already a huge milestone with...
acapmag.com.au
Replaced the battery at 666,666km under warranty.
OK, that's all OT.
sunshine_eggo
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Daddy Tanuki
Solar Wizard
The Driven first reported on Nigel Raynard in July 2021 when the odometer on his Model S passed the 400,000 km mark, already a huge milestone with the original brake pads lasting much longer than most ICE vehicles. Nigel recently had the vehicleās second battery pack installed and is now on his second set of brake pads which should be good for another 200,000 km.I guess if we are looking for outliers:
Australian Tesla clocks 700,000 km, still saving $20,000 a year in service and fuel costs
An Australian Tesla owner has driven over 700,000 km in his 2018 Model S, and says heās saving around $20,000 per year on fuel and maintenance costs. The Driven first reported on Nigel Raynard in July 2021 when the odometer on his Model S passed the 400,000 km mark, already a huge milestone with...
Replaced the battery at 666,666km under warranty.
OK, that's all OT.
thats 2000 hours of driving at 100km/hour in 3 years. that works out to driving 666 hours per year (07/21-05/24) or basically betyween 1/4 and 1/3 of every working day... IE a highway or long distance driver. they have ICE engines that have traveled even longer with minor maintenance. so color me not surprised.
what does surprise me,and I would want proof, not just an enthusiasts word is proof that the battery had never been changed until the reported km's. If super charging it vice slow charging it I just do not see the battery being worth squat at the reported 666,666 Km's not to mention that number is an obvious dig at the religious type...makes me doubt it even more, somebody is trying to f with peoples heads is my thought. eventhe writers name is not listed on the article....
3 out of 5 of my vehicles have over 200k miles on them. One Chevy and 2 Toyotas. Not an extreme outlier imo.
Sure my vehicles donāt have āzero repairsā but nothing more trivial than a CV axle, water pump, wheel bearing, brakes, and typical wear items.
Edit: my other Chevy likely does too, but itās a ā77 and doesnāt have enough digits on the odometer to know exactly
SoggyShoes
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My parents have one of the first Tesla Model S's ever made (2012). Elon Musk personally gave them the car.
Other than someone hitting them and it taking months and months to fix, they have had no issues until they replaced their battery pack about 6 months ago (end of 2023). I don't know how many miles they had on it when they changed the battery pack, but I am sure it was at least 200,000km (124,274mi). The pack still had most of it's capacity, but it had lost just enough that it made them nervous about getting to their favorite stops to recharge on their trips from California to Oregon.
They decided to get a new pack because the car has been so reliable for 11 years and they still love it.
The biggest drop in their range came from a programming update! When they bought the car, Tesla was trying to claim the maximum range. Within a few years, Tesla realized that it was better optics not to have people stranded on the side of the road than a huge range. So one day they Tesla did an automatic software update that dropped their range by a significant percentage! Over the years software updates have made small improvements the efficiency (and thus range), but the improvements have never been as dramatic as the the cut to make a bigger reserve buffer.
Other than someone hitting them and it taking months and months to fix, they have had no issues until they replaced their battery pack about 6 months ago (end of 2023). I don't know how many miles they had on it when they changed the battery pack, but I am sure it was at least 200,000km (124,274mi). The pack still had most of it's capacity, but it had lost just enough that it made them nervous about getting to their favorite stops to recharge on their trips from California to Oregon.
They decided to get a new pack because the car has been so reliable for 11 years and they still love it.
The biggest drop in their range came from a programming update! When they bought the car, Tesla was trying to claim the maximum range. Within a few years, Tesla realized that it was better optics not to have people stranded on the side of the road than a huge range. So one day they Tesla did an automatic software update that dropped their range by a significant percentage! Over the years software updates have made small improvements the efficiency (and thus range), but the improvements have never been as dramatic as the the cut to make a bigger reserve buffer.
wattmatters
Solar Wizard
Average age of "light" vehicles in the US is 12.6 years. The average annual mileage according to the US Federal Highway Administration is ~13,500. So that's approximately 170,000 miles.
Anything double that age or mileage is a statistical outlier, right out at the shallow end of the bell curve.
Anything double that age or mileage is a statistical outlier, right out at the shallow end of the bell curve.
Hedges
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Our youngest car is twice that age. Next couple are about 28 years. Others are 70+ (admittedly not daily driver, although one was in 2009.)
Motorcycle is 60.
But then, I'm not average.
"I think old cars just last longer."
Motorcycle is 60.
But then, I'm not average.
"I think old cars just last longer."
Daddy Tanuki
Solar Wizard
honestly old cars are easier to tinker with and we maintain them better due to nostalgia... who wants to work on a 2022 car of any make?
Nobody...
Brucey
Solar Wizard
Here in NY state vehicles that are 25 years or older have a much easier annual inspection process. My work truck is a 98 k1500. We have couple of 99 suburbans, a 94 k2500 etc. Why spend tens of thousands when you can pick one up for under $1000 (they will need frame welding after that many years with salt treated winter roads).
Brucey
Solar Wizard
A little blue to bring in the long weekend for us non Euro heathens...
Still stunned by the 48/1200 and its capabilities. I have upstairs fridge/freezer, tv, wfh setup, internet/nas and two downstairs freezers connected and I'm just idling around 500W. I run that pass thru to the Delta 2 max. If I need to run air fryer or toaster or other larger load I unplug the AC input cord from the 48/1200, and d2m switches to its internal battery and gives me up to 2400W. Once high load is done I plus d2m back in, and it will charge at load+200W (minimum charge level in ecoflow app). At this point the utility could shut me off and I'd be good to go for a couple days (exception being well pump and central AC which are 240v). working on the AC portion by adding an LG inverter window 8000 BTU unit. Added the series Redodo minis last night, at 15kWh now and 17.5kWh once I make an additional pair of cables.
Offsetting about 30% of consumption but that was with very low loads earlier on will need another month to get true numbers aiming for 50% as next step. all big loads are propane powered which helps a lot.
Still stunned by the 48/1200 and its capabilities. I have upstairs fridge/freezer, tv, wfh setup, internet/nas and two downstairs freezers connected and I'm just idling around 500W. I run that pass thru to the Delta 2 max. If I need to run air fryer or toaster or other larger load I unplug the AC input cord from the 48/1200, and d2m switches to its internal battery and gives me up to 2400W. Once high load is done I plus d2m back in, and it will charge at load+200W (minimum charge level in ecoflow app). At this point the utility could shut me off and I'd be good to go for a couple days (exception being well pump and central AC which are 240v). working on the AC portion by adding an LG inverter window 8000 BTU unit. Added the series Redodo minis last night, at 15kWh now and 17.5kWh once I make an additional pair of cables.
Offsetting about 30% of consumption but that was with very low loads earlier on will need another month to get true numbers aiming for 50% as next step. all big loads are propane powered which helps a lot.
Brucey
Solar Wizard
offgrid-curious
Solar Enthusiast
I'm finally "done" my remote off grid set up and can officially join team blue:
With very limited space to mount components, Victron gives you a ton of flexibility. One thing I sort of regret is not going with the 5K Multiplus, because I think I had enough room for it, even if I don't really need it for the loads I need to power. One happy accident was that I ordered the grey Vevor enclosure, but they sent me the orange one -- but the orange matches the Victron orange.
With very limited space to mount components, Victron gives you a ton of flexibility. One thing I sort of regret is not going with the 5K Multiplus, because I think I had enough room for it, even if I don't really need it for the loads I need to power. One happy accident was that I ordered the grey Vevor enclosure, but they sent me the orange one -- but the orange matches the Victron orange
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Brucey
Solar Wizard
Very clean setup! Do you have a link to the enclosure?I'm finally "done" my remote off grid set up and can officially join team blue:
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With very limited space to mount components, Victron gives you a ton of flexibility. One thing I sort of regret is not going with the 5K Multiplus, because I think I had enough room for it, even if I don't really need it for the loads I need to power. One happy accident was that I ordered the grey Vevor enclosure, but they sent me the orange one -- but the orange matches the Victron orange
OffGridIdaho
Hobby Farm in N Idaho
Those are city folk numbers not country numbers. If you live out of the city like here in Idaho, the town is 54 miles each way. If we drive somewhere we can easily put on 300 in a day. If we buy something off craigs its always out of town and we can drive 4-800 miles. Farm animals can be 3-600 miles away. Good deals on grain (2-3 tons) can be 450 miles out RT. Life living in the country isnt cheap. Most trucks for sale here have 250K+ on them. Most cars have 200k+. City folks that drive 3 miles to work wont understand.
OffGridIdaho
Hobby Farm in N Idaho
We changed out our old "lights dimming in the city" well pump to a grunfos sq and it only pulls 10a to start and 10a to run under load. Its a slow start pump and it changed everything for us. No need to have a 12k inverter to get the well pump started.A little blue to bring in the long weekend for us non Euro heathens...
Still stunned by the 48/1200 and its capabilities. I have upstairs fridge/freezer, tv, wfh setup, internet/nas and two downstairs freezers connected and I'm just idling around 500W. I run that pass thru to the Delta 2 max. If I need to run air fryer or toaster or other larger load I unplug the AC input cord from the 48/1200, and d2m switches to its internal battery and gives me up to 2400W. Once high load is done I plus d2m back in, and it will charge at load+200W (minimum charge level in ecoflow app). At this point the utility could shut me off and I'd be good to go for a couple days (exception being well pump and central AC which are 240v). working on the AC portion by adding an LG inverter window 8000 BTU unit. Added the series Redodo minis last night, at 15kWh now and 17.5kWh once I make an additional pair of cables.
Offsetting about 30% of consumption but that was with very low loads earlier on will need another month to get true numbers aiming for 50% as next step. all big loads are propane powered which helps a lot.
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Ron-ski
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I drive 8, but I fully understand, we live in the UK, and to drive from the bottom to the top of the country is around 750 miles, so in reality everything is in easy reach (although the traffic is awful), although some parts the going is much slower, but there are some areas that are very sparsely populated.
I once stayed in Canada, at a very nice lodge in Nordegg, the nearest decent size town was 56 miles away, this made me realise just how small the UK is, and how convenient the area we live in is, pretty much everything within a 5 to 10 mile radius.
PS. My 2009 VW has 140,000 miles on it, not much in the grand scheme of things, hopefully its good for another 5 years or so.
Currently altering my blue setup, added another power in yesterday, and moving things around to make space for two more SCC.
offgrid-curious
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The only thing I did was swap the door orientation. Itās a really great enclosure for a very reasonable price.
wattmatters
Solar Wizard
Those are not "city folk" numbers, they are national averages. Of course there are some who get higher mileage / vehicle age, and equally there are just as many who get lower mileage / vehicle age. It's a normal distribution (speaking both colloquially and statistically).
Which is why we use averages (and other related statistics) when discussing the overall performance of the national road fleet.
You buy/use what makes sense for your individual circumstances. I've no issue with that, nor would I suggest anything else. But individual anecdote is not data, nor does it change the average age and mileage of vehicles in the national fleet.
wattmatters
Solar Wizard
Idaho is definitely large and remote. Long distances involved. My home state of New South Wales has nearly four times the land area of Idaho.
While I live in the country (about halfway between cities of Brisbane and Sydney) I would not say I am remote by any stretch, there are small towns and regional centres not that far away.
While we do have a reasonable concept of long travel distances in Australia, we are however, on average, a highly urbanised country, more so than the USA.
While I live in the country (about halfway between cities of Brisbane and Sydney) I would not say I am remote by any stretch, there are small towns and regional centres not that far away.
While we do have a reasonable concept of long travel distances in Australia, we are however, on average, a highly urbanised country, more so than the USA.
