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EG4 12Kpv Prototype at Intersolar

Could it be the surge rating just before the magic smoke is released, or did they just round up? 10kpv is so boring.... Doesnt all of those dirt cheap SRNE inverters put out 10kw? They could make this look like a bad value.

SRNE 10Kw per unit, a pair is 20Kw.

Not as cheap as at first, price increased $420 per unit to $1299. Still, 20Kw for $2600.

Will this unit come with firmware in alpha release? If so hopefully they will include an Ethernet port so a router can be connected for better internet connectivity for daily firmware updates.
Or has EG4 learned from the 18kpv "experience"?
 
To my newbie eye these two units have a lot of space that is not used for anything inside.
Is there any reason for them to be designed like that?
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To my newbie eye these two units have a lot of space that is not used for anything inside.
Is there any reason for them to be designed like that?
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I remember seeing on MultiPlus UL version thread how the wiring compartment needs to be larger for the U.S.

That amount of gutter space, isn’t that extreme given the size of wires that have to land in there. Especially the battery wires.
 
Could it be the surge rating just before the magic smoke is released, or did they just round up? 10kpv is so boring.... Doesnt all of those dirt cheap SRNE inverters put out 10kw? They could make this look like a bad value.

Will this unit come with firmware in alpha release? If so hopefully they will include an Ethernet port so a router can be connected for better internet connectivity for daily firmware updates.
Or has EG4 learned from the 18kpv "experience"?
Time for a poll!

Which inverter will be released first?

1. The EG4 12Kpv *
2. The Midnite Solar 10K *

(* Or reasonable facsimiles therof..)

Results not available, don't ask.
 
(* Or reasonable facsimiles therof..)
Aren't they already out there?
Edit - I forgot the proper definition of facsimile.

Watts NHX / Amen Solar.
SRNE ASP and HESP.
The new MPP / Voltronic talked about a few months ago that no one here seems to be running.
Is the new Growatt available yet?
 
I'm guessing the EG4 12kpv, or whatever they'll call it, will be out within a few months. That might be my next big purchase. I could "upgrade" to the 6000XP from my 6500EX, but I'd lose a little power, so it's not really worth it, especially since I'd have to ante up another $750. Maybe they'll do an upgrade with the new inverter??
 

Eg4 had a very similar spec inverter already.
 

Eg4 had a very similar spec inverter already.
The new unit will be made by Luxpower verses Megarevo. The old unit had decent hardware, but the software and firmware were fiddly. I dont think they ever got it right due to some language barriers and lack of understanding of all the modes and use cases.

I have been watching the Luxpower training segments on the Luxpower LXP and SNA models and the new one pictured appears to have all the same features and logic as the 18kpv, but with smaller capacity.

If it doesn't happen soon, i may try their SNA inverter which is a 6000xp, but a hybrid version with gird assist and can export. EG4 hasn't enabled that because the inverter doesn't have US certifications to export power.
 
Well it is June! Hopefully some of the recent competition brings the price points down. I'm guessing 8k will be around $2200. Hoping we get like a 10k for $2500. The NHX is 10kw and 4 mppt for $2200.
 
The new unit will be made by Luxpower verses Megarevo. The old unit had decent hardware, but the software and firmware were fiddly. I dont think they ever got it right due to some language barriers and lack of understanding of all the modes and use cases.

I have been watching the Luxpower training segments on the Luxpower LXP and SNA models and the new one pictured appears to have all the same features and logic as the 18kpv, but with smaller capacity.

If it doesn't happen soon, i may try their SNA inverter which is a 6000xp, but a hybrid version with gird assist and can export. EG4 hasn't enabled that because the inverter doesn't have US certifications to export power.
I have the EG4 version, wish I knew about the hybrid 6k version before purchasing. If the new one coming out is a hybrid I may upgrade.
 
Found the luxbranded US 8k online. Current price is $2971. Hopefully the EG4 version comes a bit below the solarpowerstore lux pricing. I would think $2600-2900 might be fair for the 10k, but 8k should be a little lower since a bunch of competition just came out in this midsize hybrid range.
https://solarpowerstore.ca/products/luxpower-lxp-lb-us-8k-hybrid-inverter
https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0...0k_Hybrid_Inverter_Datasheet.pdf?v=1715363016

I really want grid assist with zero export. The SNA series "can" do it, but i havent seen any proof or examples like i have with the LXP series.
If the prices are in line with what we see at MapleLeafPower, im leaning toward running two SNA inverters ($1483 each). The biggest problem i have with the 8/10k is only getting 2 MPPT trackers. With my planned array setup, its hard to get that much solar into 2 mppt's properly. I really like what LUX has done, but for the size and weight, they really should have kept 3 mppts in all of the LXP series.
NHX-8k 4mppt's
Vestwoods 8k 4 mppt's
 
Found the luxbranded US 8k online. Current price is $2971. Hopefully the EG4 version comes a bit below the solarpowerstore lux pricing. I would think $2600-2900 might be fair for the 10k, but 8k should be a little lower since a bunch of competition just came out in this midsize hybrid range.
https://solarpowerstore.ca/products/luxpower-lxp-lb-us-8k-hybrid-inverter
https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0...0k_Hybrid_Inverter_Datasheet.pdf?v=1715363016

I really want grid assist with zero export. The SNA series "can" do it, but i havent seen any proof or examples like i have with the LXP series.
If the prices are in line with what we see at MapleLeafPower, im leaning toward running two SNA inverters ($1483 each). The biggest problem i have with the 8/10k is only getting 2 MPPT trackers. With my planned array setup, its hard to get that much solar into 2 mppt's properly. I really like what LUX has done, but for the size and weight, they really should have kept 3 mppts in all of the LXP series.
NHX-8k 4mppt's
Vestwoods 8k 4 mppt's
Cant wait for the 8000xp, grid assist and zero export, no hybrid.
Exactly what i was looking for since the 6000xp is just a bit to small
 
Nice display set up. Good to see they had the Hybrid ac unit there.
Would be nice to see them make a hybrid window A/C inverter type like a MIDEA.
That would open up so many more potential customers to them.
Renters arent going to buy a mini split for a house they are renting.
Even Grandma could have someone throw in a window unit for her and plug up 2 solar panels wires.
 
As far as price goes, if the 18kpv stays at $4900 ish, I could see this being $3000-3300. I simply used the price per watt of the 18kpv.

Yes there are good prices on some other units in the 10k output range. The eg4 units do have built in breakers. Since it looks to be a smaller version of the 18kpv you can’t really compare it price wise to the 6000xp. The full 600v vs 500v of other units is nice.

I too wish there were higher capacity (8-10kw) off grid specific inverters of the quality level of the Luxpower/growatt/nhx but priced lower than the hybrids. I don’t really see these companies building one though because they have the hybrids available.

I already went with the 18kpv vs multiple 6000xps partially for simplicity and partially for the sealed case. Mine is fully off grid, no grid connection at all.
 
I wanted the sealed case but I went the other way with two 6000XPs instead of one 18kpv. They need to stop the craziness and name this one 8000XP.
 
I too wish there were higher capacity (8-10kw) off grid specific inverters of the quality level of the Luxpower/growatt/nhx but priced lower than the hybrids. I don’t really see these companies building one though because they have the hybrids available.

So I was looking at the MidNite One 1741 listing last night, and that actually covers a family of 4 inverters, presumably with different power levels. Only the 10KW one has been announced/discussed though.

What do you expect to save, cost wise etc, with an off grid vs a hybrid? Other than maybe guaranteed off grid behavior. The majority of the hardware is about the same
 

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