Midnite Solar Announced their new 10kw AIO at Intersolar Today

[Brucey]

I may have misunderstood but did Adam say that the app only works via bluetooth?

I believe there is some kind of hardwired tablet type touch controller in the works.

 

[42OhmsPA]

I may have misunderstood but did Adam say that the app only works via bluetooth?

Correct, the web based monitoring is still under development.

 

[realpinochet]

Correct, the web based monitoring is still under development.

Needs to at least have the option of local monitoring without any need for something something cloud based. Maybe the api will be open so solar assistant can pick up the slack; perhaps a RJ45 port so one can just plug it into the network and hit a local webpage or connect it into SA or something internal easy breezy. What would be a show stopper for some is if it requires a cloud connection. That's one thing I do kinda like about the home insight Schneider has, users say it doesn't require the internet at all unless you want to update.

 

[Brucey]

Needs to at least have the option of local monitoring without any need for something something cloud based. Maybe the api will be open so solar assistant can pick up the slack; perhaps a RJ45 port so one can just plug it into the network and hit a local webpage or connect it into SA or something internal easy breezy. What would be a show stopper for some is if it requires a cloud connection. That's one thing I do kinda like about the home insight Schneider has, users say it doesn't require the internet at all unless you want to update.

I'm not sure if it relates to the aio but for the Rosie/Barcelona/hawkes bay they have been working for a while on a "comm box", which I believe is a Pi, which will allow local LAN access for monitoring.

 

[rhino]

Why is the iOS app so slow for getting updates? The Victron app is nearly realtime over bluetooth.

 

[1201]

Yes, for right now.

brutal

 

[1201]

Why is the iOS app so slow for getting updates? The Victron app is nearly realtime over bluetooth.

because victron.

 

[Mahendra Gomanie]

I may have misunderstood but did Adam say that the app only works via bluetooth?

Yes at the moment

 

[Mahendra Gomanie]

I may have misunderstood but did Adam say that the app only works via bluetooth?

I think their solution to that may be the midnite com box or something of the sort

 

[1201]

I think their solution to that may be the midnite com box or something of the sort

Really? It'll work with midnite AND Senergy firmware?

I feel that might be a tad optimistic?

 

[Mahendra Gomanie]

Really? It'll work with midnite AND Senergy firmware?

I feel that might be a tad optimistic?

Not sure maybe Midnite will say

 

[dougbert]

We have all had a phone go dead at the worst possible time.
It would be bad if you couldn't charge the phone, because the inverter was down. And you couldn't get the inverter back up, because the phone is dead.
But as I said, a hybrid is designed to work with the grid. So just install a transfer switch to bypass it and you should be fine.
Once your phone has a little time to charge, you can hopefully get your system up and running again. Or at least figure out why it went down.
Or maybe install a receptacle fed from the grid only, nearby. And you might be able to avoid the cost of the bypass.

buy a used phone and do not put a SIM card in it. leave it near the inverter and just use it as the bluetooth access computer. small computer

 

[dougbert]

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I programmed one of those back in 1973

 

[Brucey]

I think their solution to that may be the midnite com box or something of the sort

Found the thread, has some screenshots of the potential dashboards for Rosie, hawkes bay, barcelona and the classics:

New Communication Box - Page 3

New Communication Box - Page 3

midniteftp.com

 

[timselectric]

buy a used phone and do not put a SIM card in it. leave it near the inverter and just use it as the bluetooth access computer. small computer

My point was that you shouldn't need a separate device to access the inverter.
It should stand on its own.

 

[realpinochet]

My point was that you shouldn't need a separate device to access the inverter.
It should stand on its own.

Exactly....don't be a Schneider.

 

[niktak11]

Watched the video. IMHO midnite has a inverter here that is positioned well to take on the infamous Solarks. I wished they'd sent this out to trusted members and had them beat the brakes off like they did on Rosie for valuable data and reliability testing before releasing. That would have instilled more confidence.

Personal preference: I would like to see them offer HV models like some Aims and Schnedier and the 30K solarks. Maybe 300V HV battery models along with higher Kw ratings. And, 200A pass through ..if solark can do it they can to. Seems like they have got much better at surge & line balance on these HF inverters but still not there yet compared to say a XW.

Sourcing a manufacturing and supply chain outside China...lets face it things do not look good from a political / confrontational standpoint.

RF interference data for those of us that like Ham radio.

I look forward to Midnite advance and refine these inverters.

I also wish that they gave this 200A passthrough and beefed up the inverter to 15-18kW of output. Then a single unit could handle a 200A service and dual for 400A service. It is sized well for a critical load type backup though which it seems like they are more focused on.

 

[zanydroid]

100A is a perfect size for non-McMansion homes in coastal California and saves cost in several layers, so potato potahto

 

[Hedges]

I also wish that they gave this 200A passthrough and beefed up the inverter to 15-18kW of output. Then a single unit could handle a 200A service and dual for 400A service. It is sized well for a critical load type backup though which it seems like they are more focused on.

If a 10kW or even 18kW inverter passes through 200A service, how can it provide critical load (or any load) backup?

 

[realpinochet]

100A is a perfect size for non-McMansion homes in coastal California and saves cost in several layers, so potato potahto

Unfortunately that's just not true; a lot of people pull close to or over 100A in all electric homes here in the south. In fact, most new homes here are being built with 400A service to accommodate for the massive push of electric cars and the era of "electrify everything" Lots of rural folks out here also have shops with welders and other high amperage equipment.

 

[timselectric]

A 200a Passthrough simplifies the installation.
But, makes it more reliant on the grid.
Which is the exact opposite of what I would want.

 

[realpinochet]

If a 10kW or even 18kW inverter passes through 200A service, how can it provide critical load (or any load) backup?

How does solark do it?

 

[cs1234]

A 200a Passthrough simplifies the installation.
But, makes it more reliant on the grid.
Which is the exact opposite of what I would want.

Nobody says you have to use the 200amp Passthrough, you just need to pay for it.

 

[Brucey]

A 200a Passthrough simplifies the installation.
But, makes it more reliant on the grid.
Which is the exact opposite of what I would want.

The illusion of full coverage until the grid goes down....

 

[Hedges]

How does solark do it?

It doesn't.

Unfortunately that's just not true; a lot of people pull close to or over 100A in all electric homes here in the south.

"The South" isn't "Coastal California"