EG4 6000XP Released, ordered. Let's Go!

jmjack · Nov 1, 2023

Zapper77 said:
Question - Overloading the 6000xp when grid is connected.

The 6000xp will switch to grid bypass when overloaded.

The 6000xp will switch back to battery when load drops under inverter limit and/or 4 minutes (didn't test with stopwatch)

Wow, that's a nice feature! Really appreciate you testing it out.

Any possibility SS will send you a 2nd inverter to test in parallel? @Markus_EG4

AZ Solar Junkie · Nov 1, 2023

crzykidd said:
Anyone with this unit running Solar Assistant? How does it compare to the online system? Wanted to see how to get data from inverter to Home Assistant, one way is SA, another would be a lux power module someone has written... If you use SA do you lose access to the cloud data?

I have one on order from Current Connected. I do plan to use Solar Assistant with it - I'll report back on how it goes.

I may be wrong but it appears that with the LuxPower units like this one and the 18kpv - that you might be able to use both SA and the EG4 monitoring system simultaneously. If so it should be interesting to compare the two as far as features and data...

Zapper77 · Nov 1, 2023

dwknight said:
u might be able to use both SA and the EG4 monitoring system simultaneously. If so it should be interesting to compare the two as far as features and data...

You can.

solarenvy · Nov 2, 2023

So....about that shipping time @SignatureSolarJames. Any thoughts on when I might see a shipping confirmation (ordered on 10/25)? Are these in inventory?

#40Fan · Nov 2, 2023

Change your title to "Lets Wait"??

solarenvy · Nov 3, 2023

solarenvy said:
So....about that shipping time @SignatureSolarJames. Any thoughts on when I might see a shipping confirmation (ordered on 10/25)? Are these in inventory?

Update: shipping notification received!

bryansifsof44 · Nov 3, 2023

Mine too ordered 10/26

Benchen123 · Nov 3, 2023

free2enjoy said:
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FOR ALL MODULES, THE CALCULATIONS NEED TO BE PERFORMED OR VERIFIED BY USING A STRING CALCULATOR OR CONSULTING A PROFESSIONAL.

The inverter has two MPPT PV charging circuits. MPPT #1 and #2 will utilize up to 17 amps, which means two strings can be paralleled for any modules having less than 8.5A (Imp) rating.”

That makes it sound like 8.5a for each MPPT.

Do you know how much v

timselectric said:
Each, according to the math.

Edit: actually I don't know. It could be either way.

what about the v

timselectric said:
Per MPPT
Eachi

EastTexCowboy said:

Agree with @timselectric . It's per MPPT. Also keep in mind that the voltage max is a hard stop - if you go over it you're at a high risk of damaging your inverter. The amp max, typically, is a soft stop. If you go over it the inverter will simply clip at it's max rating (or below). The manual on this inverter says 17a is nominal and do not exceed 25a. These are both per MPPT. I think you can likely expect clipping above 17a but I would definitely avoid exceeding 25a.

And finally, if you're close to the max on the voltage you need to do the calculations on temperature coefficient. In cold weather your voltage will increase. Run the numbers before you do the installation just to be sure. There's a good calculator -> here and all the information you need should be on the spec sheet of the panels.

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so I have 12 50v 11a solar panels. So I can do 6 per series and x 2 mppt and it will bring me to 300v and 11a at each mppt. And is ok with the inverter? Sorry I’m new to this trying to get all 12 panels in one inverter to keep the cost low.

Zapper77 · Nov 3, 2023

Benchen123 said:
Do you know how much v

what about the v

I had two strings 10S each, 460v Open and 390-410v under load.

Benchen123 · Nov 3, 2023

Zapper77 said:
I had two strings 10S each, 460v Open and 390-410v under load.

So c

Zapper77 said:
I had two strings 10S each, 460v Open and 390-410v under load.

so that a confirm 480v per mppt? Sorry new to this just want to safe.

Zapper77 · Nov 3, 2023

Benchen123 said:
So c

so that a confirm 480v per mppt? Sorry new to this just want to safe.

480v is max. During the winter I wouldn't exceed 9S with my panel configuration.

crzykidd · Nov 5, 2023

with the 6000xp connecting to EG4 LL V2 batteries are there any issues? Any firmware versions that need to be worried about?

bryansifsof44 · Nov 7, 2023

So to be clear on first sentence in the manual. Both MPPTs could have different panels? When in parallel strings must be equal? Also maybe haven’t made it that far in the manual. My panel in my shop where I am installing is not N/G bonded. How would I set it up? Keep them separate or bond them and where? Thanks in advance!

SignatureSolarJames · Nov 7, 2023

bryansifsof44 said:
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So to be clear on first sentence in the manual. Both MPPTs could have different panels? When in parallel strings must be equal? Also maybe haven’t made it that far in the manual. My panel in my shop where I am installing is not N/G bonded. How would I set it up? Keep them separate or bond them and where? Thanks in advance!

correct, different panels

Zapper77 · Nov 7, 2023

bryansifsof44 said:
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. My panel in my shop where I am installing is not N/G bonded. How would I set it up? Keep them separate or bond them and where? Thanks in advance!

Depends on who you ask. Ground your panel frames to your grounding system.

bryansifsof44 · Nov 7, 2023

SignatureSolarJames said:
correct, different panels

What's the downside and or problem with shading? I'm just trying to understand the problem it may cause. Pretty new to this. Or different panels for that matter.

Zapper77 · Nov 7, 2023

bryansifsof44 said:
What's the downside and or problem with shading? I'm just trying to understand the problem it may cause. Pretty new to this.

Shading cuts power output. Try to string together only panels that share shading during the same time of day.

SignatureSolarJames · Nov 7, 2023

bryansifsof44 said:
What's the downside and or problem with shading? I'm just trying to understand the problem it may cause. Pretty new to this. Or different panels for that matter.

With a Tigo

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Optimizer on each of the shaded panels you will get max output regardless of string layout. you can even monitor each panel output with the Tigo cloud connect module

bryansifsof44 · Nov 7, 2023

Zapper77 said:
Shading cuts power output. Try to string together only panels that share shading during the same time of day.

Ok I understand that, but does it have any adverse affects to AIO inverter? Does it reduce output of other panels when one is shaded? Thanks for your help. I have a SW 4024 at the cabin and I am liking the foot print and ease of installation of this unit.

bryansifsof44 · Nov 7, 2023

SignatureSolarJames said:
With a Tigo

TS4-A-O
Optimizer on each of the shaded panels you will get max output regardless of string layout. you can even monitor each panel output with the Tigo cloud connect module

Awesome, on top of that monitoring individual panel performance is nice. How does it communicate with the cloud? Saw on spec it says wireless but does it go through WiFi and what is range? My shop is a metal building and not good with WiFi transmission

SignatureSolarJames · Nov 7, 2023

bryansifsof44 said:
Awesome, on top of that monitoring individual panel performance is nice. How does it communicate with the cloud? Saw on spec it says wireless but does it go through WiFi and what is range? My shop is a metal building and not good with WiFi transmission

it has an antenna that mounts on the roof and talks to the panels, the cloud connect has ethernet and wifi to connect to the web for monitoring from there.

Zapper77 · Nov 7, 2023

bryansifsof44 said:
Awesome, on top of that monitoring individual panel performance is nice. How does it communicate with the cloud? Saw on spec it says wireless but does it go through WiFi and what is range? My shop is a metal building and not good with WiFi transmission

You buy the Tigo Optimizers and The CCA and TAP.

ChrisG · Nov 7, 2023

Zapper77 said:
You buy the Tigo Optimizers and The CCA and TAP.
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Interesting video on this topic. The tests #8 and up are probably more realistic. If optimizers work depends on the type of shading. She runs through a lot of tests.

timselectric · Nov 7, 2023

High heel shading is not normal shading.

bryansifsof44 · Nov 7, 2023

Just setting up EG4 app and can't find customer code to register. Where do I find that?

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