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Infrasound From Wind Turbines Could Be 'A Huge Threat To The Entire Biodiversity': Doctor​


More than 70,000 wind turbines operate across the United States, and the U.S. government continues to approve offshore wind projects as part of its transition toward clean energy.
When wind turbines rotate, however, they generate not only electricity but also infrasound.

For Dr. Ursula Bellut-Staeck, this development represents “a huge problem for all forms of organisms,” including humans. The medical doctor and scientific author has been studying the health effects of infrasound for several years. She has been looking into infrasound as a stressor on the cellular level since 2015 and published a paper in 2023 on how infrasound affects microcirculation and endothelial cells.

Inaudible but Impactful​

Infrasound is defined as a sound wave with a frequency of less than 20 hertz (Hz). The lower the frequency of the sound, the greater its wavelength and the harder it is to shield from it. Infrasound can penetrate walls, people, and animals.

With ever larger wind turbines, the frequencies are getting lower and lower. This makes infrasound more problematic and dangerous,” Dr. Bellut-Staeck told The Epoch Times.

Today’s wind turbines reach frequencies as low as 0.25 Hz. The wavelength of this frequency is just under 0.86 miles.

Infrasound has another special feature. Humans cannot usually hear frequencies below 16 Hz, which marks the so-called lower hearing threshold. In other words, we cannot hear many of the sounds emitted by wind turbines. However, we may feel them in our bodies as humming or rumbling, as with a loudspeaker. The lower the frequency, the higher the sound pressure level (i.e., the volume) must be to feel or hear it.

Nevertheless, the mechanical forces emanating from the inaudible sound frequencies can have an effect on the cell and membrane structures, Dr. Bellut-Staeck said.

Transmitted via the Air and Ground​

Wind turbines generate infrasound when the rotor blade brushes past the mast. The rotor blade pushes large air masses in front of it, which is then interrupted at the mast. Infrasound is then transmitted not only through the air but also through the ground via the tower and can penetrate houses. Buildings, therefore, offer no protection. “On the contrary: Airborne and ground-borne infrasound can add up considerably indoors,” Dr. Bellut-Staeck said.

Impact on Endothelial Cells​

Infrasound could also affect microcirculation, the blood circulation of the fine capillary network where oxygen and nutrients enter the surrounding tissues.

More precisely, it’s the endothelial cells located on the inner wall of the capillaries that react to infrasound, Dr. Ursula Bellut-Staeck said. She’s been studying microcirculation and endothelial cells since 2004. In addition to transporting proteins, these cells have many vital functions, such as inhibiting inflammation and controlling blood pressure. In a rat study examining the effects of infrasound, researchers noticed endothelial swelling and outer cell membrane damage within three hours of exposure to infrasound with a frequency of 8 Hz.

The surface of an endothelial cell. (Courtesy of Dr. Ursula Bellut-Staeck)
“Since around 2015, it has been noticed that people exposed to infrasound and vibration from technical emitters have shown symptoms that correspond to microcirculatory disorders,” Dr. Bellut-Staeck said. This effect was particularly noticeable after smaller wind turbines were replaced by larger ones.

Reported adverse effects of industrial wind turbines include weakness, dizziness, headaches, concentration and memory issues, ear pressure, cardiac arrhythmia, and sleep disorders, according to research cited in Canadian Family Physician.

Numerous animals have also reacted to wind turbines. It has been observed that they leave the vicinity of wind turbines. One study published in Scientific Reports showed that many bird and mammal species avoided wind farms and the surrounding areas, affecting distribution and migration patterns. Place-bound animals such as horses, cows, and pets are said to have shown changes in behavior, including signs of stress.

“The symptoms in animals cannot be [attributed to] a nocebo effect,” Dr. Bellut-Staeck noted, as official authorities sometimes suggest. In contrast to the placebo effect, the nocebo effect describes a negative health effect from expectations of negative consequences.

Dr. Bellut-Staeck pointed out that other technical systems also emit infrasound and could cause major problems. For example, in or near residences, this applies to heat pumps, biogas plants, and gas turbines. However, she expects large wind turbines to have the most far-reaching consequences for the environment and biodiversity—precisely because of their increasing number and size.

“Such chronic and impulsive low-frequency stressors can never be compared to natural infrasound pollution [like high surf and strong winds],” she said.

 

Are Whale Deaths Connected?​

In 2023, official data revealed an increase in the stranding and death of whales along the U.S. East Coast. There was a temporal and geographical connection between this excess mortality and the geological surveying conducted for the expansion of offshore wind power. As a result, 30 New Jersey mayors signed a petition asking congressmen to help pause offshore wind power expansion activities until a full investigation could be conducted. The National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration has stated, “There are no known links between large whale deaths and ongoing offshore wind activities.”

But Dr. Bellut-Staeck remains concerned by the low-frequency sound and vibrations of ship noise and other sounds. In the ocean, sound travels at 0.91 miles per second—four times faster than in the air. The depth of the oceans, therefore, offers no protection against sound.

It doesn’t just affect orientation, but also the regulation of vital bodily functions,” Dr. Bellut-Staeck said. “The consequences for the animals here are also lack of energy, chronic inflammation, disruption of reproduction, excess mortality, and population decline.”

Vibrational Stress​

As all organisms react to infrasound, Dr. Bellut-Staeck emphasized that “we may have a huge, previously unrecognized threat to the entire biodiversity.”

Dr. Bellut-Staeck, who does her research in Germany, where wind power is the largest contributor to the power grid, proposes that deep sound and vibration can act as a vibrational stress factor on endothelial cells. As many vital functions require intact endothelial cells, endothelial damage can have serious consequences, including contributing to vascular aging and atherosclerosis.

The German Federal Environment Agency, however, told The Epoch Times that it has not found any evidence that infrasound from wind turbines causes adverse health effects and that “how infrasound emitted by wind turbines affects endothelial cells has not yet been scientifically proven.”

International Studies Show Harmful Effects​

Dr. Bellut-Staeck said there are currently no studies to clearly illustrate or prove the risk of infrasound, as most studies focus on acoustic, or audible, sound.

However, initial studies on the effects of infrasound indicate possible serious health problems. One study published in Environmental Disease concluded there was a high probability that people living near industrial wind turbines would experience harmful health effects due to anxiety, stress, and loss of sleep resulting from exposure to infrasound and other emissions. A German study also identified the toxic effects of infrasound exposure at a cellular level. Another study, published in PLoS ONE, documented brain activity changes following exposure to infrasound stimulation.

These studies emphasize the need for further research and a better understanding of the impacts of infrasound.
 
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You abrasive? 🤣🤣🤣 if you are what goes as “abrasive” I gotta work on my game some more!
 
... I now see a trend towards fixing this issue, I can move on, thanks everyone....
If you just want to see the news as to what's going on you can ignore the many many posts from deniers.

Green Energy is a Scam, It isn't meant to work... by James Corbett... a new report from the eggheads at Oxford assures us that switching to renewables will save us trillions. You heard that right. It won’t cost us trillions of dollars to build out a completely new global energy grid infrastructure based on technology that is still under development and then switch the entire global economy onto it. No, don’t be silly! It’s going to save us trillions of dollars.
Quoting the quy that got fired from Fox Entertainment for generating too many lies as proof of reality?

It's obviously true that switching will save us trillions, not sure why anyone would doubt it as there are no fuel costs.
But it's like the quotes about Florida underwater, it's not going to happen overnight and if we reverse it then it won't happen at all. That trillions boils down to billions per year and is global.

Trillions sounds big, but the scale is so massive for power it's peanuts. In 2023 the U.S. alone generated 4,178 billion kWh, globally 27,000 trillion kWh. At an average price of 15¢ per kilowatt hour that's $626 Billion for the U.S. in a single year, and $4 Trillion worldwide every year.

So, just saving 1% per year means a $40 billion savings per year, and that will add up. Can we save 1%? Easily! Fuel prices historically increase and there are no technology breakthroughs to get higher efficiencies from burning fuel (it's limited by Carnot's law). But solar and wind are fairly nascent and they are not only improving but prices are falling and projected to continue falling.

Solar has been cheaper than natural gas for years, but Lazard's reports that 2023 was the first time solar with battery hit the same price points as gas. From the price ranges, you can see that there are already places renewables will be far cheaper (e.g., any place with expensive fuel delivery costs, and that will be more than a 1% savings per year).

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The Oxford Report: Decarbonising the energy system by 2050 could save trillions

‘There is a pervasive misconception that switching to clean, green energy will be painful, costly and mean sacrifices for us all – but that’s just wrong,’


Instead, we have taken a completely different approach when calculating automotive efficiency: assuming 100 kWh of available thermal energy, how far can a driver expect to travel in an ICE compared with an EV. We prefer this methodology, as it aligns with our intuitive understanding of “efficiency:”: how much can we get out of a single unit of energy. Using this approach, the race isn’t even close --the ICE wins “hands down.”
Which should tell you that they picked a way they could bamboozle the numbers. Yeah, converting electricity into thermal energy is nearly 98% efficient, but converting it back to electrical with conventional means is restricted by Carnot, so of course it would lose. But that's not the way it works and is disingenuous.

An efficient ICE can expect to achieve 37 miles per gallon of gasoline
That's gasoline that has to be refined after being pumped from the ground, and shipped. Factor all that in too.
A car is about 12-30% efficient turning that gasoline into motive power.

An EV gets ~4 miles per kwh and convert over 77% of the electrical energy into motive power. The grid average in the U.S. is 15¢ per kwh and should go down with electrification. So, in an EV 100 miles costs 100/4 * .15=$3.75. At 37 mpg your ICE at $3..80 per gallon would costs 100/37*3.80=$10.27.

Even better, EVs help with the global warming problem.

When all power is green (e.g., nuclear, solar), they'll produce no emission other than manufacturing off-gasses. So, EVs win... hands down ;- )

Never in history has a less efficient “prime mover” displaced a more efficient one.
That's just ridiculous. New technology is always replacing old technology. Horses used to be the prime power, don't see many of them on the roads.

Gravity Battery
I wouldn't invest. I did the calculations once, it needed the weight and area of a small lake something like 10 feet just to get 10 kwh/d of power.
 
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Florida, climate change doesn’t exist...officially

In Florida, the effects of climate change are hard to ignore, no matter your politics. It’s the hottest state — Miami spent a record 46 days above a heat index of 100 degrees last summer — and many homes and businesses are clustered along beachfront areas threatened by rising seas and hurricanes. The Republican-led legislature has responded with more than $640 million for resilience projects to adapt to coastal threats.

Florida Bill Would Purge State Laws of Climate Change Mentions

Opinion: Because it's so politicized we'd spend tax dollars reprinting stuff rather than fix stuff. At least it's an relatively inexpensive non-solution.

Controversial PragerU videos gain educational foothold in a handful of states

It's not just Florida anymore teaching their children that climate change is a hoax. Sorry about that!

Homeowners in these Florida cities face the greatest threat from climate change

Opinion: Yeah, I'm picking on Florida just because I live here. But as you probably saw from my prior post, your state is probably having issues too. Truth is, there's a reason humans don't like change. It sucks to have to change to avoid change. ; -)
The 2024 Realtor.com Housing and Climate Risk Report found that more than 44.8% of the country’s homes face at least one kind of “severe or extreme climate risk” from either flood, wind, wildfire, heat or air quality. The total value of those homes is nearly $22 trillion, according to the study.


The World Is Utterly Failing to Keep Climate Change Under Control

The world's governments are not track to meet a goal of the 2015 Paris agreement of capping temperatures well below 2 degrees Celsius

Yeah, we talked about this a bit ago. Stuff is being done, more people are aware.... but current policies have us headed way over +2, around +2.5 to +2.9 degrees C. That's bad because of tipping points, which might make even worse.

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The more we delay, the more expensive it becomes to hold the line. Even holding the line at 1.5C is way more expensive, for example paying for more disaster relief and repairs to infrastructure. It's shocking that it costs us on average nearly a half trillion more per year than it did just 20 years ago.

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Svetz thinks all power in the United States currently comes from fossil fuels.

He has now resorted to calling people deniers and posting videos from that old hag lecturing people about how stupid they are for resisting communism.

You don't have to fall for every trick in the book Svetz
 
You abrasive? 🤣🤣🤣 if you are what goes as “abrasive” I gotta work on my game some more!
I find ppl like this funny. They twist stuff beyond a wild fubar. They want to act crazy when called out about it ….end up whining claiming victim status…. Kvetching.
Weak…
Post in thread 'All Electric Tractor'
https://diysolarforum.com/threads/all-electric-tractor.76749/post-1047985

If nothing else can watch run away huge ship. No bridges were harmed in this video.
 
Svetz thinks all power in the United States currently comes from fossil fuels.

He has now resorted to calling people deniers and posting videos from that old hag lecturing people about how stupid they are for resisting communism.

You don't have to fall for every trick in the book Svetz
Read what he states “was a denier himself they gained his confidence.” He got conned. 🤣

He works on bias that every one thinks no climax is happening…. When that is not true at all for belief. What most ppl and that is majority know is that Climax can’t be changed at a measurable scale to off set it….after all it is going to happen anyway. Climax Chage is a natural. Has it been accelerated - yes…. No . It has been altered but what if we try things that actually end up making it far worse.

Our war on communism didn’t work
Our War on drugs didn’t work.
Our war on stupid “din’t” work
Our war on terrorism didn’t work ~$30 trillion dollars
Our war on cancer old research - covid flu none of it worked. Real Truth might be same or better results if no one took vaccines. Unknown.
Our War on Climax change has no plan just more spending…again probably worse then when started.

Most Ppl know Solar panels - systems are not sustainment either…..stand alone. So…. What are you using?
 
Read what he states “was a denier himself they gained his confidence.” He got conned. 🤣

Everytime. These are the goofballs that let the wooden horse in through the gate, everytime.

He works on bias that every one thinks no climax is happening…. When that is not true at all for belief. What most ppl and that is majority know is that Climax can’t be changed at a measurable scale to off set it….after all it is going to happen anyway. Climax Chage is a natural. Has it been accelerated - yes…. No . It has been altered but what if we try things that actually end up making it far worse.

Getting the covid jab, believing in climate change and calling everyone racist is the easy path to take, that's why they do it. This is why it's important to point out their hypocrisy. Telling other people to do stuff is easy, that's just words. Walking the path is hard and liberal climate change believers are weak-willed people who's personality is centered around avoiding hard work and responsibility.

Our war on communism didn’t work
Our War on drugs didn’t work.
Our war on stupid “din’t” work
Our war on terrorism didn’t work ~$30 trillion dollars
Our war on cancer old research - covid flu none of it worked. Real Truth might be same or better results if no one took vaccines. Unknown.
Our War on Climax change has no plan just more spending…again probably worse then when started.

Well D71, they didn't work because we didn't do them hard enough. That 1 Maga who didn't get a mask or get vaccinated is the reason covid didn't go away in 2 weeks.

The reason communism didn't work is because they didn't commie hard enough.

Most Ppl know Solar panels - systems are not sustainment either…..stand alone. So…. What are you using?

I'm surprised he shared with us that he bought a plug-in hybrid and not a full electric car and I don't think he shared how much of his electrical demands via solar. Does he even have solar or did the extra money he had to spend on the charger for his clarity kill his solar budget? If it did that's not his fault because we need a redistributive wealth system so people who buy HOnda Clarity's can also afford the solar to charge it with.
 
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All links open, stop BSing.
Anyone can verify this in 10 seconds, so nice try (LOL).

Now go educate yourself:

























My anti anti malware program was preventing opening one. i got it open with another computer. I'll comment on it after I have time to review.

So far your logic seems to follow the same general pattern.
Example:
Find an article about apples with a phrase; "the color of the fruit is red"
Find another article about oranges that says "the color of the fruit is orange"

Fruit can't be both red and orange therefore fruit can't exist.
 
Denier claim: Renewables are not feasible!
Believer Claim: Hydro is a renewable, many places solely get power from hydro. Energy is just energy, of course it is feasible.

Melting polar ice is slowing the Earth's rotation

A survey of interventions to actively conserve the frozen North

Antarctic Sea Ice Near Historic Lows

Powering aircraft with 100 % sustainable aviation fuel reduces ice crystals in contrails

There’s still hope

If we make serious changes today, like reduction of global carbon emissions from heavy industry, that means we could begin to see reversals in some of the telltale effects of climate change beginning in as little as 20 years...
 
Denier claim: Renewables are not feasible!
Believer Claim: Hydro is a renewable, many places solely get power from hydro. Energy is just energy, of course it is feasible.

Melting polar ice is slowing the Earth's rotation

A survey of interventions to actively conserve the frozen North

Antarctic Sea Ice Near Historic Lows

Powering aircraft with 100 % sustainable aviation fuel reduces ice crystals in contrails

There’s still hope

Bring on climate change! Save TRILLIONS and plant some trees.
 
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