I should also say that I'm using NO-OX-ID because it was recommended to me before I heard of MG Chemicals 847. My small jar of NO-OX-ID will last a very long time at the rate I'm using it, so I'm stuck with it. NO-OX-ID is good, but think the MG Chemicals 847 is better. But not better enough for me to toss out what I already have.