Future of DIY LiFePO4 looks bleak…
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Since cell prices have fallen considerably, how does this compare to off the shelf batteries? 2Pcs. 200amp JK bms@$96, various copper odds and ends that are already laying around, $30 in lumber for heavy duty diy shelves, and 32pcs of 304ah cells from Docan @$72 delivered.
Brucey
Velcro Man
Is that ex China or ex Houston?
China
Andrewr05
[Replicant 42069]
Zwy
Emperor Of Solar
I did get in on this deal with the Gobel cells when the cells with $71 each and included shipping to my door. Total was $1319 to my door. They arrived some time ago, cells were very nice quality and balanced well.For thirty years, starting with Apple II, I've built my own Desktops. When I started, it required buying and soldering every component on an empty PCB, building a case out of wood, modifying a surplus keyboard to work with it, and cobbling together a power supply from scratch. I actually enjoyed it.
I've saved a butt-load of money over the years building one-generation-removed PCs, rather than a state-of-the-art machine that's lost its shine in six months.
More recently, my existing machine was over five years old, and it was "second tier" when I built it. I was looking to build a new second tier gaming PC the month after the new 3000 series Nvidia boards hit the stores. I picked out my chosen components (brand and model), with a couple options for each. Priced it all out. Got funding approval.
On a whim, I checked the sales on the Micro Center site. They had a gaming PC in which every component was on my configuration choice list. No compromises.
For twenty bucks less than my self-build.
And it came with a warranty.
No brainer, and I had plenty of other things going on at the time that I didn't need a hobby.
Box from Luyuan would be about $350, JK another $125 with screen, Class T $75 from Don Rowe. Total would be $1869. That is a better deal than the previous Luyuan build. Cells keep getting cheaper ........
Brucey
Velcro Man
Brucey
Velcro Man
$77+5%? Mine were $75+5%. Lot better than some of the panel prices these days.
Alkaline
Solar Wizard
I have been using rept for 1.5 years they are excellent those $77.00/cell delivered are nice but then its Docan so its gamble. In my book rept is as good as eve.
Just ran into this third outdoor LFP offering from Linotech: https://liniotech.com/ul9540a-ul1973-ce-emc-ground-outdoor-power-storage-wall-ltn14000u/
$3799 for 16.38kWh and UL9540A certified…
$0.232/Wh (new low in the outdoor-mounted weatherproof class…).
105.6% the price of the EG4 Power Pro for 115% the capacity.
Interestingly they are sold at Home Depot although pricey.
LINIOTECH 5.12 KWh 100Ah 51.2-Volt LiFePO4 Lithium Solar Battery Solar Rack Style Stackable Liniotech512 - The Home Depot
Easily setup your solar panel with the included toolkit and micro-usb cord with this LINIOTECH LiFePO Solar Battery Solar Rack Style Stackable
www.homedepot.com
LINIOTECH 14.33 KWH 48-Volt 280ah Lifepo4 Power Reserve Power Wall Solar Battery Storage Wall Mounted Liniotech1433 - The Home Depot
Keep your cam charged around the clock without any hassle by LINIOTECH this reliable Lifepo Reserve Power Wall Solar Battery Storage Wall Mounted.
www.homedepot.com
On there web site they claim to only use CATL
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liniotech.com
Still like building my own.
k490
Solar Enthusiast
Pricing coming down on UL listed batteries when you compare to US supplied cells down to less then $1000 difference. If I'm buying from 18650 store are they requiring paid shipping on a bad cell back to them. Shipping on a single battery cell could be $50-80 easy.
Offgrid Jungle
Solar Enthusiast
Your right. I didn’t even consider a DIY pack. I went with Ethos because for the same $1500 for 5kwh you get a a sealed case, a master controller, wall brackets, all the cables including the cat5 and power cables to the inverter. It went together in a matter of minutes.
ScrodusGargleRotten
Solar Wizard
I would just buy one extra for the future anyway. So I guess I expect 1 cell on each 16s pack to not behave either initially or eventually.
OffGridForGood
Catch, make or grow everything you can.
I liked the comment from a member - get four extra cells, after picking the best for the main battery, you can then use the four poorer ones for make a 4s-12v battery.
awpatterson217
AWP
I just had to exchange four 280k cells from 18650batterystore and they paid for shipping.
Brucey
Velcro Man
What was the issue with the cells?
awpatterson217
AWP
Bent terminals. The cells were packaged in sets of four and it seemed like one of the packages had been handled roughly.
Brucey
Velcro Man
That's the only thing that worries me about those double terminals, so easy to bend those down due to shipping forces.
Glad luyaun shipped two cells per box.
I have found their packaging to be exceptional.
Surprised about this discussion. Here in EU I’d say the difference in pricing is substantial. Ready made boxes by Huawei and others tend to be in the ballpark 2-2.5k€ per 5kWh, yet you can get a fully celled BasenGreen stack of 15kWh for 1.8k€. So the price difference is MORE than 3x. Even if some newer providers might come down to 7kWh for 2k€ it’s still >2x. If you go only for the one unit, then you only need a breaker (~90€) and two cables (~50€) to connect to inverter.
I myself sold a Huawei 10kW hybrid inverter + 15kWh pack for 5400€ and rebuilding it with Deye + 2x Basen boxes 32kWh for 5900€ getting a better inverter + double the storage for about the same price. PS! That final price included all the cables, breakers, busbars etc.
I myself sold a Huawei 10kW hybrid inverter + 15kWh pack for 5400€ and rebuilding it with Deye + 2x Basen boxes 32kWh for 5900€ getting a better inverter + double the storage for about the same price. PS! That final price included all the cables, breakers, busbars etc.
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