Q-Dog
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I have several play toys. My wife wants me to convert one of them. I might be getting past the point of wanting to do another project.
Half price electric cars
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Nobodybusiness
Collecting the leftovers of the Great Sky Reactor.
No because they can’t compete..
Q-Dog
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No, I never wanted bloated, gigantic, heavy electric vehicles. I can wait.
Nobodybusiness
Collecting the leftovers of the Great Sky Reactor.
Sure you did.
We told you the battery technology wasn’t mature enough yet but you scream “ Do it anyway”
Batteries are heavy yes?
DOT and crash standards are tough yes?
Still wanting the Yugo I see.
Who in the world has made a DOT ready truck to compete?
Nobody.
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Brucey
Solar Wizard
Compete with who?
Nobodybusiness
Collecting the leftovers of the Great Sky Reactor.
3/4 1 EVs tons can’t compete with Diesel.
Brucey
Solar Wizard
Yes. Battery power density isn't there yet. So there aren't EV vehicles in all categories.
Ampster
Renewable Energy Hobbyist
On short delivery routes, Amazon is apparently saving a lot of money with their Rivian vans. I see them all the time. That is a niche that is working. I don't think it will replace the one ton Diesel any time soon,
Nobodybusiness
Collecting the leftovers of the Great Sky Reactor.
Exactly.
Which is what we have been saying.
The technology isn’t mature enough yet to mandate this nonsense.
Brucey
Solar Wizard
The Rivian vans are awesome, big upgrade for the drivers from their standard ram pro master (and also Amazon mothership monitoring)
Nobodybusiness
Collecting the leftovers of the Great Sky Reactor.
In California as a test.
Amazon can afford to waste whatever they want.
Here they use Mercedes Diesels.
See them daily.
NO Ev delivery vehicles.
What’s good for Short route California is not good for the rest of the world.
Q-Dog
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They DO NOT MAKE A SMALL EV truck! They can't keep the Maveric pickup in stock, so obviously there is a market for small trucks. I don't need a new truck today, but if there was an EV equivalent to my Ranger I would go out and get one TODAY. It does not yet exist.
Brucey
Solar Wizard
Ampster
Renewable Energy Hobbyist
From all reports the test is going well and Amazon considers it a permanent solution for markets with shorter delivdery routes. I also see Mercedes diesels and Ford Vans.
No public company can afford to waste money and be around for long. Amazon clearly sees economic and marketing advantages in their strategy.
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Brucey
Solar Wizard
They are all over the country. Over 10,000 of them back in 2023:
Amazon now has over 13,500 custom electric vans delivering to customers across the U.S.
Everything you need to know about how Amazon is decarbonizing its delivery fleet in partnership with Rivian.
www.aboutamazon.com
Nobodybusiness
Collecting the leftovers of the Great Sky Reactor.
Nobody in the world makes a DOT,Etc,Etc,Etc
standard small EV truck.
Funny how I see maverick on eBay, Carmax all the time.
You should get one..
Nobodybusiness
Collecting the leftovers of the Great Sky Reactor.
You consider a 1 ton truck a grocery’s getter?
He was talking about cars.
Not my fault they can’t compete in the big boy world.
Nobodybusiness
Collecting the leftovers of the Great Sky Reactor.
Amazon is committed to decarbonizing its delivery fleet and has rolled out more than 10,000 custom electric delivery vans across theThey are all over the country. Over 10,000 of them back in 2023:
Amazon now has over 13,500 custom electric vans delivering to customers across the U.S.
Everything you need to know about how Amazon is decarbonizing its delivery fleet in partnership with Rivian.
Amazon can virtue signal all they want with their money.
Nobodybusiness
Collecting the leftovers of the Great Sky Reactor.
Sure.
Virtue signaling.
They would drive mopeds if they thought it would advance EVs.
Bezos is right in that crowd.
Do a line audit and see what those cost vs diesel to replace entire fleet on a continuous basis.
Average share holder has no idea of operational cost.
Brucey
Solar Wizard
You don't think the Rivian vans make sense over gas vans for quite a few routes? At least we can agree it is no longer a test in California.
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