Your big red wire nut, OTOH, looks crazy and wrong (apparently interconnecting a black "hot" wire with a bunch of different neutral wires - neutral wires which must never be connected together, because they are possibly out-of-phase with each other.) Can you please explain this wire nut?The output from the Samlex (invertor) is going to the input (pictured in red). The inverter is just tied onto the Pos and Neg of deep cycle battery.
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It just looks like that. I had a double take also.Your big red wire nut, OTOH, looks crazy and wrong (apparently interconnecting a black "hot" wire with a bunch of different neutral wires - neutral wires which must never be connected together, because they are possibly out-of-phase with each other.) Can you explain ?? !!
Well, I do want to power my 110 items with the battery. I want to be able to use my electrical plugs when on battery and disconnected from shore. I do not want to use extension cords from the inverter. So, that's what I am working on.Yes a 35 amp rated WFCO will overload a 300 watt inverter every day of the week. Besides that you do not want to power the WFCO from your inverter even if it worked. 12 volt items will be powered direct from the battery.
Well, I do want to power my 110 items with the battery. I want to be able to use my electrical plugs when on battery and disconnected from shore. I do not want to use extension cords from the inverter. So, that's what I am working on.
So, are you saying instead of just turning off the converter breaker, just get a bigger inverter?
That post 5 is not my transfer switch. Post 18 is. Just for clarification.30 amps@120 volts = 3600 watts.
That requires a big inverter and a big battery bank.
Big is expensive.
How much power do you actually need?
You have a power loop and bigger hardware will not fix that issue in and of itself.
The simple solution is to wire the converter directly off of the transfer as shown in post #5.
No. Just turn off the breaker.Well, I do want to power my 110 items with the battery. I want to be able to use my electrical plugs when on battery and disconnected from shore. I do not want to use extension cords from the inverter. So, that's what I am working on.
So, are you saying instead of just turning off the converter breaker, just get a bigger inverter?
That's what I am finally gathering in my thick skull now, haha. Turn the breaker off to the converter (WFCO).No. Just turn off the breaker.
Yes but you can wire your model in the same way.That post 5 is not my transfer switch. Post 18 is. Just for clarification.
That solution relies on the operator not making a mistake.So, back to my original question is turning off the main breaker for the converter "fixing" the issue? Everything seems to work when I am in this state.
Of course not.Just because I have that much available watts doesn't mean I actually have to use it does it?
Yes but you can wire your model in the same way.
Your converter just needs to be connected to shore power in parallel with the transfer switch.
That solution relies on the operator not making a mistake.
Its a workaround but not a fix.
Of course not.
That drawing makes it look harder than it is.haha, that is always the problem, operator error.
Let me think about the shore power in parallel with the transfer switch. The limits of my knowledge where passed a long time ago.
Thanks all........
That inverter will not even come close to running an air conditioner.Now, its time to build a back deck on the trailer and install a AC roof top unit.
Yea, that will be just for shore power or the generator. I think I would need the mate though for the Honda generator.That inverter will not even come close to running an air conditioner.
Just saying.
Well you could do that or you could just replace 2 of the 2 position lever nuts with 3 position lever nuts.Somewhere here on the forum, I saw an automatic transfer switch that had a power out circuit that could be used to power a converter so that the converter isn't in the AC loop (of the main panel). What you need is an ATS with two output circuits.
This is what you have {
wago_221_612_1 {
|<->mains_hot
|<->ats_hot
}
wago_221_612_2 {
|<->mains_neutral
|<->ats_neutral
}
ats_ground_bar {
|<->mains_ground
|<->ats_ground
}
}
This is what you want {
wago_221_613_1 {
|<->mains_hot
|<->ats_hot
|<->fuse_or_breaker<->converter_hot
}
wago_221_613_2 {
|<->mains_neutral
|<->ats_neutral
|<->converter_neutral
}
ats_ground_bar {
|<->mains_ground
|<->ats_ground
|<->converter_ground
}
}
The inverter is one of the inputs to the ATS.Here is a (cheesy) drawing of what smoothJoey is suggesting (sort of). In the drawing, the assumption is that the 120Vac from shore/generator goes through the inverter, which doesn't always happen.
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