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I Can't Afford So-Called "Tier 1" Equipment. What's Good at Tier 2?

.stick to Victron/ Schneider/ BB/ MS/ Blue Seas .……and other top tier stuff ..
It just works.
But Jim,
The OP specifically said they can't afford Tier One stuff, can't we give our best advice on mid-level stuff, and let them join the party? The potential to learn is so much higher when you have stuff that needs more attention after all!
 
But Jim,
The OP specifically said they can't afford Tier One stuff, can't we give our best advice on mid-level stuff, and let them join the party? The potential to learn is so much higher when you have stuff that needs more attention after all!
I understand , but people can normally afford what they Really Want.. it make take some discipline and forethought as to how to adress spending on other stuff…. Life ain’t fair sometimes ..mostly we can’t all have all we wish.. we have to make choices….it took me a while to save to buy top tier stuff and lesser grade pizza and spend less on less important things..
can we have no discipline in life anymore..?
I aggree it would be nice to afford anything… BUT………..ya know…
 
But Jim,
The OP specifically said they can't afford Tier One stuff, can't we give our best advice on mid-level stuff, and let them join the party? The potential to learn is so much higher when you have stuff that needs more attention after all!
I envy Musk… lucky rascal…
 
I understand , but people can normally afford what they Really Want.. it make take some discipline and forethought as to how to adress spending on other stuff…. Life ain’t fair sometimes ..mostly we can’t all have all we wish.. we have to make choices….it took me a while to save to buy top tier stuff and lesser grade pizza and spend less on less important things..

It usually takes a while to wear down my resistance and get me to loosen my purse strings.
(metaphorically speaking, of course.)

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I've been feeling tempted to get a Baldwin mortised lock set, just because I have an old mortised door, and want it to take the same Schlage key as the others instead of a skeleton key (or more properly called "warded?".)
Not sure you've seen what these go for!


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It usually takes a while to wear down my resistance and get me to loosen my purse strings.
(metaphorically speaking, of course.)

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I've been feeling tempted to get a Baldwin mortised lock set, just because I have an old mortised door, and want it to take the same Schlage key as the others instead of a skeleton key (or more properly called "warded?".)
Not sure you've seen what these go for!


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You can buy a decent guitar for 400.00 maybe 600.00
you can buy a really good guitar for 1000.00
you can buy a great guitar for 2000.00
you can buy a beast of a guitar for 3- 5000…….

you have to decide what you need for the job and what makes you feel satisfied…

after a life time of owning Les Paul Customs and Ricks , I went cheaper last year…a SG Standard…only 2000.00 … I’m getting older and chicks dont care anymore what I play……
bummer..
 

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The Sungold Power sp6548, after briefly looking at them the other day, seem to have gotten an upgrade in terms of their MPPT controllers, as they are now listed as featuring a 390voc limit with a
Wide mppt ranging 90-350v. So given the extra 100v usable range over MPPs LV6548 what's the catch here?
Lv6548 getting upgrade soon too or what?
Are these the same 6548s mentioned in this thread?
 
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The Sungold Power sp6548, after briefly looking at them the other day, seem to have gotten an upgrade in terms of their MPPT controllers, as they are now listed as featuring a 390voc limit with a
Wide mppt ranging 90-350v. So given the extra 100v usable range over MPPs LV6548 what's the catch here?
Lv6548 getting upgrade soon too or what?
Are these the same 6548s mentioned in this thread?
Same upgrade. A month or two ago as I recall.
 
I understand , but people can normally afford what they Really Want.. it make take some discipline and forethought as to how to adress spending on other stuff…. Life ain’t fair sometimes ..mostly we can’t all have all we wish.. we have to make choices….it took me a while to save to buy top tier stuff and lesser grade pizza and spend less on less important things..
can we have no discipline in life anymore..?
I aggree it would be nice to afford anything… BUT………..ya know…
...yea Pizza's in today's world. Picked up (2) 3 topping Domino's pizza last night, $45.00. OMFG! Time to shift to frozen pizza & cook it in my own oven. Save up more for DIY batteries. ?
 
The key to running motors is be sure they are running on 240v (some motors can be changed from 120 to 240 inside the terminal case on the motor by moving a jumper cable) going with 240 will ensure you have equal load on each leg (L1 L2) for your inverter and it will be half the amperage of running on 120.
I'd love to run the 5 hp compressor on 240V. Back when I had a generator in the back of the truck, I made a suicide cord to run 240V on normal heavy drop cord and rewired the compressor motor for 240V.

Now that I have the big gas powered, I use it instead of a generator. It would be great to be able to plug into 240V at every jobsite.
 
The Sungold Power sp6548, after briefly looking at them the other day, seem to have gotten an upgrade in terms of their MPPT controllers, as they are now listed as featuring a 390voc limit with a
Wide mppt ranging 90-350v. So given the extra 100v usable range over MPPs LV6548 what's the catch here?
Lv6548 getting upgrade soon too or what?
Are these the same 6548s mentioned in this thread?
Lithium Solar did a video on the 390V units and Ian mentions the 390V units in his description for the 250V units on his website.

The MPPT was changed but the 390V units seem to have a higher idle consumption than the 250V units.
 
Part of my experimentation with the 250V LV6548's and comparison to the 500V EG4 SCC to see if it really is worth the higher VOC limit.

I forgot one thing I noticed yesterday morning, the LV6548 with lower VOC was inputting more Kw early in the day per panel compared to the EG4 SCC. The LV6548 was inputting about 500 watts using 4S and one would expect the 8S string to be 1000 watts or more but it would only show 800 watts.

MPPT sweep or is it from higher VOC string that hasn't hit good sun? Neither string has any shade at any time during the day compared to the other.
 
Don’t spend as much money on unneeded everyday life stuff …SAVE UP….stick to Victron/ Schneider/ BB/ MS/ Blue Seas .……and other top tier stuff ..
It just works.
Let discount buyers fuss and fight with China and /or consult forums for resolution on operation and fixes.
in 50 years of buying different gear of many types , I have had two top tier products not work right…TWO… they were promptly replaced and life moved on…
but , maybe that’s just luck on my part.
I can well afford Tier 1 but where is the fun in that?

Part of this adventure is learning and one can certainly learn many things when experimenting with other than Tier 1. Safety is another matter, for many things such as fuse holders, fuse panels I use Tier 1 such as Blue Sea.

Part of the reason I have what I purchased is the Tier 1 didn't always manufacture a product that fit what I wanted.
 
I'm same age as you and do everything (technical) solo. My wife around 90 something pounds would only be in danger.
Engine hoist works. You may be able to use it as-is, but I added an extension pipe to get 18" beyond the front wheels, and put ballast on the back.

Thanks for that info. I've been pondering the engine lift and as luck would have it, Andy had a new video last night using one to lift a battery. A trip to Harbor Freight is on my itinerary for the weekend.
 
Maybe I should have gone that route. Right now I have the 6k Growatt in service with a new 12k unit still on the floor. Haven't figured out how to get it on the wall yet. I think it comes in around 165 pounds
Hopefully the wall can handle the load. What I would do in a like situation is call on friends to help. If none were available I would contact a Handyman service and pay a few dollars. Now when I was younger I would not hesitate to do it all myself but I am slowly learning that to seek out assistance rather than overwork or hurt myself.
 
I'm same age as you and do everything (technical) solo. My wife around 90 something pounds would only be in danger.
Engine hoist works. You may be able to use it as-is, but I added an extension pipe to get 18" beyond the front wheels, and put ballast on the back.

Kind of in the same situation. Both of us are in our late 50s. But, while I do most technical stuff, she is an amazing second set of hands. Helps me a lot when doing something alone is just too hard.
I put my Sol-Ark 15K on the wall by putting it on a small scaffold. Teetered it back and forth to get it up on blocks on each side so it was almost high enough to go on the hanger. Then mounted a board to the wall under the inverter, used it for the pivot point for a lever to get it up off the blocks. Wife lifted the lever (2x8x maybe 6 feet long, and I steadied it and pushed it against the wall. Maybe not the safest way, but it worked.
 
Thanks for some reason I thought it was 27a, that must be the TP6048, there goes that master plan. Good thing I'm also looking at the SRNE ASF48100U200-H
There are several threads on here on the SRNE. A lot of negative from what I've seen. Looking at the specs it's not what I would want but that's just me. I'd say keep doing what you're doing - a lot of research. ?
 
Don't worry about the wall, any residential wall framing will be far more capacity than these units apply. Be more concerned about actually attaching to the wall frame members, don't expect drywall anchors to be sufficient! :ROFLMAO:
I've actually used the 1/4" Toggler anchors in drywall to hold much heavier loads than this. They're rated at 265 lbs per anchor. I hung an 86" touch screen TV that weighed over 300 lbs with four of them several years ago and it's still there.

 
300 lbs! how did you lift that into place!?
That's how I ended up with one of these. I had three TVs to hang for a client in their clinic conference rooms. So I bought this lift cart and it worked great. Then I thought about selling it at least a dozen times. So glad I didn't now. It's going to live tucked away in the back of the shop for the forseeable future. Saved my butt on batteries and a few other things around here.

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Hopefully the wall can handle the load. What I would do in a like situation is call on friends to help. If none were available I would contact a Handyman service and pay a few dollars. Now when I was younger I would not hesitate to do it all myself but I am slowly learning that to seek out assistance rather than overwork or hurt myself.

20 years ago I manhandled 75 lb. 2500W Sunny Boys onto the wall, above head high using a step ladder.
Recently, lifted them down with (adult) stepson's help.

For the 145 lb. 5 ~ 8kW SB 5000US series, SMA's idea is remove top grills, slide a pipe through, and 2-man lift. But stepson and I couldn't get them up head high and above.

Maybe 3 people or stronger people could manhandle it, but I like to move things safely with machinery so no slips and fall/drop. The engine hoist works well on flat surfaces. Important when lifting objects with extension and CG beyond front wheels that ballast keeps it upright, and when rolling forward you push low so as to not tip over. Once it tips the load moves further beyond wheels, a runaway situation.

I was also able to lift individual 9kVA toroids with it, but when I tried to lift set of three onto a dolly, the 1.5" pipe bent. Not as strong as the square tube, and was over the 1/4 ton limit of hoist at its longest extension. Didn't help that pipe frame for transformer was inclined to rotate, or I could have done one end at a time.

 
Don't worry about the wall, any residential wall framing will be far more capacity than these units apply. Be more concerned about actually attaching to the wall frame members, don't expect drywall anchors to be sufficient! :ROFLMAO:
Perhaps it was my upbringing on the West Coast where earthquakes can happen but I have seen that the results of inadequate wall hanging of things.
 

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