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Our NEW GO-TO LiFePO4 vendor...09.20.21

After a couple of orders of cells from China on Alibaba, I've decided I'm never going to order from China stock again. The logistics company in the middle has no stake in the game, give the seller no updates, and can completely ruin the transaction. I've bought from Any Wan and she was just as frustrated as I was with the trans-pacific shipping.

If a company has a US warehouse, at least the risk in getting to this continent is bore by that company, and they are in a position to hold the logistics company accountable. I was happy with my order from Docan in Houston, although I know several people have pointed out their failings. If / when I order more cells, I'm thinking 18650batterystore.com may be where I look.

I did get Jenny Wu's email about the Ganfeng cells, and exchanged emails with her. It sounds like they had a bad year in 2022, and I'm not sure of the status of their Houston warehouse.
 
I ordered 32 more of the EVE 230's from Docan's Houston stock. The 16 I got from them last year were good. I think the problems people have had with Docan have been on the 280's and above. The 230's are less popular and it seems less likely to be pushed out quickly to meet demand.
 
Brett V said:
I ordered 32 more of the EVE 230's from Docan's Houston stock. The 16 I got from them last year were good. I think the problems people have had with Docan have been on the 280's and above. The 230's are less popular and it seems less likely to be pushed out quickly to meet demand.
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Good point. Mine were the EVE 160's from Docan in Houston, and they were perfect.
 
Horsefly said:
After a couple of orders of cells from China on Alibaba, I've decided I'm never going to order from China stock again. The logistics company in the middle has no stake in the game, give the seller no updates, and can completely ruin the transaction. I've bought from Any Wan and she was just as frustrated as I was with the trans-pacific shipping.

If a company has a US warehouse, at least the risk in getting to this continent is bore by that company, and they are in a position to hold the logistics company accountable. I was happy with my order from Docan in Houston, although I know several people have pointed out their failings. If / when I order more cells, I'm thinking 18650batterystore.com may be where I look.

I did get Jenny Wu's email about the Ganfeng cells, and exchanged emails with her. It sounds like they had a bad year in 2022, and I'm not sure of the status of their Houston warehouse.
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maybe that was the reason they started relasering b cells
 
Brett V said:
I ordered 32 more of the EVE 230's from Docan's Houston stock. The 16 I got from them last year were good. I think the problems people have had with Docan have been on the 280's and above. The 230's are less popular and it seems less likely to be pushed out quickly to meet demand.
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Did you order the welded studs or threaded terminals?
I saw a recent post about the welded studs having poor weld quality. I've had 0 issues with my 32 threaded terminals. I'm going to order 32 more but want the price to drop...
 
Horsefly said:
After a couple of orders of cells from China on Alibaba, I've decided I'm never going to order from China stock again. The logistics company in the middle has no stake in the game, give the seller no updates, and can completely ruin the transaction. I've bought from Any Wan and she was just as frustrated as I was with the trans-pacific shipping.

If a company has a US warehouse, at least the risk in getting to this continent is bore by that company, and they are in a position to hold the logistics company accountable. I was happy with my order from Docan in Houston, although I know several people have pointed out their failings. If / when I order more cells, I'm thinking 18650batterystore.com may be where I look.

I did get Jenny Wu's email about the Ganfeng cells, and exchanged emails with her. It sounds like they had a bad year in 2022, and I'm not sure of the status of their Houston warehouse.
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What happened? Give details, also how did you pay?

Yes this is one of those issues people just pretend to ignore shipping form overseas is a PIA, held up in customs, delays, I have heard some times these Chinese freight forwarders hold up the freight and demand more money from the shipper in China or they will confiscate goods. If you involve the police then basically the goods just disappear.

Credit card payment is all I can say, if it all goes to hell you can just charge back, never ever pay with bank account to overseas vendor regardless of how nice they appear.
 
42OhmsPA said:
Did you order the welded studs or threaded terminals?
I saw a recent post about the welded studs having poor weld quality. I've had 0 issues with my 32 threaded terminals. I'm going to order 32 more but want the price to drop...
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According to the pictures on their website, they're the welded studs. We'll see what I get and I'll post some pictures here if anything looks funky.
 
Alkaline said:
Credit card payment is all I can say, if it all goes to hell you can just charge back, never ever pay with bank account to overseas vendor regardless of how nice they appear.
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Alibaba and the 40 thieves, certainly.

I have ordered from Germany and paid by bank wire. Just a few $hundred, and I was ordering from a factory/OEM (MSTE Solar) because I couldn't find the product at resellers. So I played by their terms. Things went fine.

It may be a sure way to get FINCEN to open a file on you (they have one one me), but if you don't live in a glass house that's OK.
 
I just got an email from Amy Zheng at Docan that says they will have a quantity of prebuilt 16S 280Ah batteries arriving in Houston in a few weeks. They will also have 20 DIY 16S boxes with "newer" 200A BMS arriving as well.

I wonder if they decided to get into the prebuilt battery game to help move the 280k cells that everyone is grousing about... it would make sense.
 
I have 78 cells form Sun Fun Kits and I am super impressed with the packing, labels, and customer support. I bought 4 280K cells over a year ago and 8 304 cells in February along with 66 304 cells in May.

I picked the 304 cells up and the cost was $186.00/cell for grade A with test reports. Also got 2 of the LV6548 from them. These will go in my Cabin in Arkansas in a nice custom enclosure, I plan on having some type of A/C setup to keep the temperature cool along with some heating for the winter.

I now need to figure out which solar panels to get.
 

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Not bad, if they can get the price down to closer to $175/cell delivered for the 304 cells they could be a contender, you could have 18650batterystore for 280K for about $165 ish delivered and 304 from SFK for $175 ish delivered. Though Luyuan is currently hovering around $160 ish delivered for the 304 if you buy over 16 cells.
 
Hedges said:
I have ordered from Germany and paid by bank wire. Just a few $hundred, and I was ordering from a factory/OEM (MSTE Solar) because I couldn't find the product at resellers. So I played by their terms. Things went fine.

It may be a sure way to get FINCEN to open a file on you (they have one one me), but if you don't live in a glass house that's OK.
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A few hundred dollar transaction from EU and the open a file on you?? wow.
Not that I have (much) to hide, but seems over the top, for a small transaction, not like it was 10's or 100's of thousands.
 
OffGridForGood said:
I suspect it is not mistrust of the EU so much as our own governments' mistrusting it's own citizens! (mine included)
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no worries within the eu it is exactly the same..
gov wants to know everything here..

they are trying to put a new law in effect here that obligates a bank to monitor any transaction over a 100 euro's..

to help combat financing terrorism they say..

uhun sure, i believe them on that ..(not)
 
curiouscarbon said:
en.wikipedia.org

Financial Crimes Enforcement Network - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org en.wikipedia.org
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That's who.
Supposedly they're the ones who noticed "Client #9" making some unusual transactions. But didn't care what he was concealing from his wife.

All I know is they have a file on me. It's been several years since I learned that, and no one has come knocking on my door. It is best to keep one's nose clean. They observe financial transactions, look to see if anything nefarious is going on.

OffGridForGood said:
A few hundred dollar transaction from EU and the open a file on you?? wow.
Not that I have (much) to hide, but seems over the top, for a small transaction, not like it was 10's or 100's of thousands.
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No not THAT transaction. I was just pulling you guys' leg that it would get a file on you.
I assume it was the $45k I wired to Japan to exercise employee stock options. Enough money to save a record, see who else I send to or who else sends to them.

I understand the FBI also has a file on me (from before January 6th.)
No visitors yet with sunglasses and dark suits, so they must still have higher priority business.

Hey, even when I have roommates, and even if I'm paid in cash, I report the income. Never do anything that would violate criminal laws.
The system is just as series of nets/filters, so if you're going to be on their radar due to unusual transactions, don't have anything bad to be found if they look.


houseofancients said:
and the eu especially..
and here i thought the us and eu were friends and allies...
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Doesn't keep us from spying on each other.

houseofancients said:
no worries within the eu it is exactly the same..
gov wants to know everything here..

they are trying to put a new law in effect here that obligates a bank to monitor any transaction over a 100 euro's..

to help combat financing terrorism they say..

uhun sure, i believe them on that ..(not)
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Maybe someone should start the "TOR" money transfer system.
Every transaction is divided down to pennies, moved around the world seven times, brought back together as it reaches recipient. Too difficult to follow, just looks like windblown rain.
 
houseofancients said:
no worries within the eu it is exactly the same..
gov wants to know everything here..

they are trying to put a new law in effect here that obligates a bank to monitor any transaction over a 100 euro's..

to help combat financing terrorism they say..

uhun sure, i believe them on that ..(not)
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Ours too,
My business got a refund of $730.00 via overseas transfer (settling a dispute after some equipment arrived slightly damaged) and I got contacted by a Gov body just days later to "explain the receipt of funds and confirm reporting for tax purposes". Wow, I was not impressed, I thought reporting was done at year end - silly me. {didn't realize George Orwell was in charge}.
 
Hedges said:
That's who.
Supposedly they're the ones who noticed "Client #9" making some unusual transactions. But didn't care what he was concealing from his wife.

All I know is they have a file on me. It's been several years since I learned that, and no one has come knocking on my door. It is best to keep one's nose clean. They observe financial transactions, look to see if anything nefarious is going on.



No not THAT transaction. I was just pulling you guys' leg that it would get a file on you.
I assume it was the $45k I wired to Japan to exercise employee stock options. Enough money to save a record, see who else I send to or who else sends to them.

I understand the FBI also has a file on me (from before January 6th.)
No visitors yet with sunglasses and dark suits, so they must still have higher priority business.

Hey, even when I have roommates, and even if I'm paid in cash, I report the income. Never do anything that would violate criminal laws.
The system is just as series of nets/filters, so if you're going to be on their radar due to unusual transactions, don't have anything bad to be found if they look.




Doesn't keep us from spying on each other.



Maybe someone should start the "TOR" money transfer system.
Every transaction is divided down to pennies, moved around the world seven times, brought back together as it reaches recipient. Too difficult to follow, just looks like windblown rain.
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i believe it is call crypto this TOR Money transfer ( and no not bitcoin).

however becomming increasingly difficult to not being 1984'ed
 
Years ago, my wife's father was selected to shake hands with Bush Jr. when he was naturalized. I would hope there was an investigation of family members, can't be too careful.

I've also done work that required a clearance. So lots of reasons why the government would take a look, see I or my associates were disreputable.

Alkaline said:
Wow this is nuts, buy some batteries get put on criminal watch lists!
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It means you are subversive, undercutting the monopoly's control on your life.
More difficult to cut your power if your social credit score gets too low.
 
Hedges said:
More difficult to cut your power if your social credit score gets too low.
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Yeah block you from career advancement, cut your internet access speed, or ban you from buying airline tickets...if your not a "good" citizen, and only they get to decide what "good" means. And by them I mean the CC party.
I guess we wandered a bit off the path of Go To LiFePO4 suppliers...ops.
 
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