(updated) Signature Solar 48v Chargeverter

[Cronix]

It seems there is a "new" chargeverter from EG4, for $79 more than the "old" yellow one, and as of now available for pre-order.

EG4 Chargeverter - GC | 48V 100A Battery Charger 5120W Output | 240/120V Input (PRE-ORDER)

Signature Solar provides solar panels, off-grid solar systems, grid-tie, and hybrid systems. Quality solar inverters, bifacial solar panels, complete solar kits, solar batteries. Featuring brands such as EG4 Electronics with their solar battery, LifePower4 and EG4 LLifePower4 and EG4 LL

signaturesolar.com

Does anyone know if there is any difference between this new grey model and the older yellow one that justifies $80 more? It seems the form factor might be different as well?

Edit: It looks like these are the "new" features:
Dry Contacts:

• Control of generator start/stop function based on Voltage or state of charge (SOC)

Using EG4 Batteries?

• Closed loop communication with EG4 batteries for charging based on battery state of charge (SOC), when batteries are not in communication with the inverter

I was wanting to get another yellow one but can't find them on Signature Solar's site anymore. Just this one.

 

[timselectric]

Different screen
Exterior coms port
Dry contacts.

V1 is discontinued.

 

[Gubman]

Comms ability with batt BMS added.

 

[timselectric]

Comms ability with batt BMS added.

As long as you aren't already using closed loop communications to the inverter.
Otherwise, it can't be used.

 

[timselectric]

 

[wpns]

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Yeah, that pretty much nerfs the utility of the comms. Hopefully EG4 solves it in a {18Kpv, PowerPro, ChargeverterGC} firmware update.

 

[timselectric]

Yeah, that pretty much nerfs the utility of the comms. Hopefully EG4 solves it in a {18Kpv, PowerPro, ChargeverterGC} firmware update.

If it's going to be solved. It should happen before purchase.

 

[wpns]

There you go with that “should” thing again.
I can’t buy V1 and I want Chargeverters, so I preordered a couple of V2. If EG4 fixes their firmware I’m happy, if they don’t I’ll live with it or figure out a workaround or something. Heck, if my system has enough margin I may not even need them except to exercise my generators. Over the cost of this project, the price delta between a couple of V1 /V2 disappears in the noise. Don’t tell My Favorite Wife, but the electrician just quoted me on 1200 feet of 3/0 copper THHN.

 

[timselectric]

There you go with that “should” thing again.

I know.
Asking for products that just work. Is a lot to ask for these days. They do exist, but it takes a bit of effort to find them.

 

[hwy17]

Battery to charger SOC control is a useful feature for some people. That's how my DIY system works.

 

[HighTechLab]

New EG4 Chargeverter V2

Signature solar are now taking pre-orders on a second version of the Chargeverter. Does anyone know what the difference is to the original other than the colour and the price? https://signaturesolar.com/eg4-chargeverter-gc-48v-100a-battery-charger-5120w-output-240-120v-input-pre-order/

diysolarforum.com

This thread covers a lot more in-depth on some of the feature differences.

 

[timselectric]

Battery to charger SOC control is a useful feature for some people. That's how my DIY system works.

Mine too. But I didn't need $80 worth of technology to accomplish that.

 

[Quattrohead]

If it's going to be solved. It should happen before purchase.

Yeah because Android/Apple/LG/Ford et all always get the software sorted before release of a product.

 

[timselectric]

Yeah because Android/Apple/LG/Ford et all always get the software sorted before release of a product.

Exactly my point.
I'm tired of having to constantly update everything I purchase.
This half assed rollout mentality is annoying.

 

[SparkyJJO]

Update paths are great when a software bug is discovered that can be fixed in that way. But it has, I believe, led to laziness and a "let the market be the final quality testers" mentality.

I miss the days that things could generally be expected to work out of the box.

 

[EG4_Jared]

It seems there is a "new" chargeverter from EG4, for $79 more than the "old" yellow one, and as of now available for pre-order.

EG4 Chargeverter - GC | 48V 100A Battery Charger 5120W Output | 240/120V Input (PRE-ORDER)

Signature Solar provides solar panels, off-grid solar systems, grid-tie, and hybrid systems. Quality solar inverters, bifacial solar panels, complete solar kits, solar batteries. Featuring brands such as EG4 Electronics with their solar battery, LifePower4 and EG4 LLifePower4 and EG4 LL

signaturesolar.com

Does anyone know if there is any difference between this new grey model and the older yellow one that justifies $80 more? It seems the form factor might be different as well?

Edit: It looks like these are the "new" features:
Dry Contacts:

• Control of generator start/stop function based on Voltage or state of charge (SOC)

Using EG4 Batteries?

• Closed loop communication with EG4 batteries for charging based on battery state of charge (SOC), when batteries are not in communication with the inverter

I was wanting to get another yellow one but can't find them on Signature Solar's site anymore. Just this one.

The upgraded version features a detachable input cord for easy switching between 120v and 240v plugs. Additionally, Dexgon connectors on the output allow for convenient unplugging of cords. Other improvements include an enhanced LCD interface and the addition of dry contacts and RJ11 ports for charger communication.

 

[Mr onetwo]

It's Degson guys

 

[Easyyokefilms]

It seems there is a "new" chargeverter from EG4, for $79 more than the "old" yellow one, and as of now available for pre-order.

EG4 Chargeverter - GC | 48V 100A Battery Charger 5120W Output | 240/120V Input (PRE-ORDER)

Signature Solar provides solar panels, off-grid solar systems, grid-tie, and hybrid systems. Quality solar inverters, bifacial solar panels, complete solar kits, solar batteries. Featuring brands such as EG4 Electronics with their solar battery, LifePower4 and EG4 LLifePower4 and EG4 LL

signaturesolar.com

Does anyone know if there is any difference between this new grey model and the older yellow one that justifies $80 more? It seems the form factor might be different as well?

Edit: It looks like these are the "new" features:
Dry Contacts:

• Control of generator start/stop function based on Voltage or state of charge (SOC)

Using EG4 Batteries?

• Closed loop communication with EG4 batteries for charging based on battery state of charge (SOC), when batteries are not in communication with the inverter

I was wanting to get another yellow one but can't find them on Signature Solar's site

 

[boss hugg]

So, I'm new to this, but plenty experience with electrical. My question is about all the COMMUNICATION (edited) between chargers, inverters and batteries. What are they saying back and forth that would make me want to spend tons of money on, say, eg4 batteries over just buying cells and a BMS and building a homemade battery? I have an older 15kw Winco standby generator that works great, but supposedly it may not put out clean enough power to go directly into an inverter?

 

[wpns]

eg4 batteries over just buying cells and a BMS and building a homemade battery

COTS versus DIY. That’s essentially what this forum is all about. There’s room here for everyone between “write a big check to the local Tesla installer” right up through “ take my burro and my pickax and head up into the hills to find me some of that there Lithium”. Everything’s modular at the appropriate zoom level, and it’s fractal all the way down.

What do _you_ want to do?