Will, your current video "Quick Morning Rant: Chinese VS American Solar Products"

[Electric Night]

The problem with rants like this is that it bashes blaming everyone else for your problems by blaming other people for our problems. If the end punchline was "I'm starting my own business"- that would be different. But I heard "someone needs to do this". At some point, instead of ranting about nobody doing something, then do stuff.

er Um Will has already "done it" and continues to. He was many admonishing people who seem to be expecting a handout rather than a hand up and working on bettering their "lot in life". Will has put a lot of work into it and shared much of his journey often saying "If I can do it in my situation so can you"

 

[fat_old_sun]

er Um Will has already "done it" and continues to. He was many admonishing people who seem to be expecting a handout rather than a hand up and working on bettering their "lot in life". Will has put a lot of work into it and shared much of his journey often saying "If I can do it in my situation so can you"

If anything, he's made buying from china more popular!

 

[Self Sufficient]

I agree with every single thing Will said, so much so that I registered just now to reply the the video. It is too bad that some get offended by the words and miss the intent.

 

[MrNatural22]

Many wise and forward looking insights.

Until the constant hateful referrals to obesity and fat cast a very dark cloud of doubt on an otherwise credible rant making it sound like the obese and fat humans are the main culprits of all current weaknesses and failures of our American society.

Very clearly we all need to take a good long look into our own life's mirror and take stock of our own personal weaknesses and veiled failures that have caused this very real weakening of our American industry and society instead of constantly finding fault with a certain physical group.

I make it a habit of looking deep within myself each morning to realize and change my own many faults and defects.

Nobody is ever as perfect as they sometimes dellusionally imagine themselves.

There is no shortage of haters these days.
My .02

 

[wattmatters]

handinpalm:
"Will is spot on. What kind of job can you get with a social science degree? Yes, it is worthless. Get a technical degree and make some $$, and lose some weight while you are complaining about social misjustice."

You missed my point entirely.

Why does a degree have to result in a job? Seriously, are we so narrow minded to not realise the wider value of such an education to society and humanity?

Education is about learning and the process of learning, and social sciences are very much about learning critical thinking skills, especially when it comes to the way people relate to each other and their environment, how we communicate, about understanding human behaviour, our history and how to help people.

If your only measure of success is the $$ one can make then that says everything about skewed priorities.

That time in your life when you require rehabilitation support after a major trauma? Thank the people with social science degrees helping you to recover. Criminologists helping Police to reduce and resolve crime. Historians making sure we understand where we came from and the stories we all enjoy to read and watch. And so on.

As to the "lose some weight" comment, why the ad hominem? That's so lame.

You have zero clue about my education, nor my health status. I have no idea about yours either but I don't seek to attack you for it. I never studied social science, my time at university was spent reading physics and mathematics. As to weight, meh I'm retired. I'll never be as thin as when I was a competitive athlete.

 

[Ribbit74]

I didn't get far into it. I stopped listening after the suggestion social science was worthless.



Can you correct the error in the thread title?

I would agree that “whining” on instagram or whatever doesn’t do much to help anybody’s cause; but similar to his comment about being bombed, you don’t really feel the pain of social injustice until you’ve been subjected to it.

People dismissing social science without really knowing anything about it have no more credibility than people who dismiss solar power without knowing anything about it.

 

[NwCali]

It is sad that that is so difficult to imagine at this point. The victim olympics/intersectionality has made being weak and pathetic the "highest good". If you have a disability, you dont have to do anything, at all. "Dont worry, society will take care of you". If it doesnt do it just right we will rush to your aid and shame everyone in sight.

Im in Calgary AB. We built a new library here. It is beautiful. After it was done there was 1 (one) disabled person that was angry because it was not easy enough for her to get in. She could still get in, it just wasnt easy enough. It cost the tax payers over $100,000 to make the building more easily accessible for this one person. https://calgary.ctvnews.ca/much-her...nts-calgarians-with-mobility-issues-1.4177993

Does she have a disability, sure. Should society help her out? I guess so. Should her life be easy? Hell no. She can struggle like the rest of us.

I disagree 100%.

I did a spell running remodels on motels. The laws in the US are there for good reasons. Imagine being blind cause your employer cut corners and it cost you your site. Now imagine 20 years later going to a motel and getting burnt cause the hot was backwards from where the law (one that didn't exist in your world maybe) wasn't followed.

Or being blind and bound to a wheel chair and having to navigate a incline built out of spec to your place.

I remember like 10 years ago a court house didn't follow the law and they would carry (in public) people up stairs. How moronic is that?

When your disabled your self esteem takes a huge hit (most of the time). Maybe you had been a Iron worker for years and year, fought a war for your country, or flipped burgers and one day someone did something and you lost your mobility. Its NOTHING for society to do the right thing there. Nothing. What is $100,000 in the real of humanity? Its nothing.

I felt this way when I ran that crew doing those remodels. I was the one laying the slop floors in the ADA showers cause no contractor could meet the standard. And after my 5th day of working a Iron Worker job and breaking 19+ bones due to company errors and ending up disabled I am STILL this way.

I am a War veteran as well, and show my scars there.

Hope this gives you some perspective. And if you met me in real life you'd probably swear that I was 100%....

And yes, I met people who road the system from teenage years till death. It happens. Wish we could fix that part of it...

 

[NwCali]

There is a upside to "made not in the USA"...

I'm old enough to remember when a car would rarely get to 100,000 without major problems and doors trying to fall off hinges...

Just wanted to post the only positive I know of in how it was done...

Enderes Tools was my go to when I needed certain tools. I had actually been to one of their manufacturing plants. Then they stopped getting their steel in the US (they were bought out) and their tools went "soft" (in comparison)....

You could buy a old drill and it would almost spin you before it would stop.... My new Rigid has no balls....

I have a grinder from like 1998 still, Milwaukee. I replaced it once thinking it was old, new one didn't last a year (same brand)....

Just lessons in life about how to, and not to, do it.

 

[wattmatters]

Im in Calgary AB. We built a new library here. It is beautiful. After it was done there was 1 (one) disabled person that was angry because it was not easy enough for her to get in. She could still get in, it just wasnt easy enough. It cost the tax payers over $100,000 to make the building more easily accessible for this one person.

I bet had the original design been done with appropriate disabled access in mind then it would not have cost nearly as much.

 

[wattmatters]

Lots of great points mentioned here, and I appreciate the input.

What triggered your rant?

Imagine a world where people carry their own weight and push toward peak physical and mental health. That is the world I wish to live in.

Imagine a world where instead we help each other in this pursuit.

While self reliance is all well and good, a focus on self reliance alone isn't necessarily healthy, efficient or productive. Indeed it can result in negative outcomes, physically and mentally.

 

[Will Prowse]

What triggered your rant?


Imagine a world where instead we help each other in this pursuit.

While self reliance is all well and good, a focus on self reliance alone isn't necessarily healthy, efficient or productive. Indeed it can result in negative outcomes, physically and mentally.

Mainly reading comments on my videos. But I think about this stuff all day.

Yes of course, but you cannot help others, if you do not take care of yourself first. I think if you are a healthy and capable individual, you will automatically help others. Not everyone, but most people.

I had many months where I had no one to help me when I was disabled. My mom was in jail and my dad was not around. I was alone and had zero help. It took me a few years to muster up the courage to go to shelters. It was not healthy, and I wish it wasn't so, but some of us have no choice. Many of my beliefs and values derive from doing everything on my own. Now I am able to help my sister and other people. I could not do that previously, when I was focusing on survival only.

 

[upnorthandpersonal]

I had many months where I had no one to help me when I was disabled. My mom was in jail and my dad was not around. I was alone and had zero help. It took me a few years to muster up the courage to go to shelters. It was not healthy, and I wish it wasn't so, but some of us have no choice.

As someone living in Finland (and having lived in the States for a few years) this is one of the things that I don't understand. Everyone can have bad cards dealt, and having a safety net for those people is less expensive in the long run and better for society in general than having them fend for themselves. Over here we have a 'housing first' approach, where no matter what happens, you can always have a living space. Not a shelter. A dwelling for your own use. This takes away a huge burden to help get your life back on track: you have an address, a bed to come home to, a shower, warmth. You can focus completely on getting a job and/or education to get to that job (education here is tax funded, so at no cost for the individual), or to fix your other problems. There are practically no strings attached, for example, people in this program don't have to give up alcohol or whatever - but if they want to, and need it, help is available.

If society in general has the resources to put up a safety net such as this and other aspects like it, it becomes a lot easier to take 'risks' such as starting your own business. I don't understand the adversity to this and similar approaches in the States (ignoring the typical "that's socialist and thus bad" comments you hear). Same with healthcare: if one doesn't have to decide between going to a doctor and food, or when your health coverage is not attached to your job, you make sure everyone can get medical care and get a healthier population with more people able to work.

Yes of course, but you cannot help others, if you do not take care of yourself first.

Society in general can, as per my example, and that's what paying taxes should be for - and one of the reasons I don't mind paying taxes over here at all. Is it perfect? Of course not, nothing ever is - but a system doesn't have to be perfect in order to be useful and beneficial. Would it work in the States? No idea, but maybe something like it, or something entirely different that achieves these kinds of goals should be possible - just so people don't have to find the courage to go to a shelter just because at some point in their lives they were dealt a bad set of cards - cards that not everyone can always deal with on their own...

 

[wattmatters]

I had many months where I had no one to help me when I was disabled. My mom was in jail and my dad was not around. I was alone and had zero help.

That's a tough place to start, and survival/self reliance was your way out. All power to you.

I do however think we need to be careful with "survivor bias".

I had a more privileged start although not without its challenges. Later in life I did have a leg amputation following an athletic training injury which kind of put things into perspective. Many experience all sorts of trauma and disadvantage and their way out is many and varied.

Well done on your success, and here's to keeping it rolling.

 

[sunshine]

I come from Australia, the country that discovered and built the first MPPT charge controller . So when it comes to charge controllers it is only natural that I go to AliExpress and buy PWMs , They are not mppt, not blue, not made in America and certainly not $600 but they do what is expected of them.
I agree with all the social issues being discussed but not with any thing that leads to industry protectionism.

 

[snoobler]

Just a quick note about fatties...

I'm 90# overweight. I have an Aerospace Engineering degree. I have a job as an engineer in aviation. I have a second job that I do for fun that earns me a very respectable side income, and I'm the top post whore on a solar forum.

I just wanted to give the other fatties some hope that it is possible to make positive contributions to society - contrary to some of the sentiments recently expressed.

 

[Supervstech]

Just a quick note about fatties...

I'm 90# overweight. I have an Aerospace Engineering degree. I have a job as an engineer in aviation. I have a second job that I do for fun that earns me a very respectable side income, and I'm the top post whore on a solar forum.

I just wanted to give the other fatties some hope that it is possible to make positive contributions to society - contrary to some of the sentiments recently expressed.

I don’t think anyone has said “fatties” are useless to society… however, you cannot disagree that being overweight is a health risk, and a burden to their activities.
my wife is highly overweight, as is my youngest child. Neither do much for society, one plays games online, one sleeps most of the day, then cooks diner, and runs the laundry… I worry for them both all the time… but I keep working my 12 or more hour days… I’m probably 15# overweight myself… work like a dog, and help where I can with society… but I eat as healthy as I can, and am very muscular for my age. My spare tire isn’t huge, but it is there, and my knees know it!

 

[12VoltInstalls]

Did I ever say a lazy person could not be skinny?

I said you won't find hard working competent fat people. You can call it a label... some of us call it reality.

I don't "want" to fix any of it... When you've social engineered it to this depth the only fix is unstoppable but damn if it won't have its own price. Sad part the deeper we went, the more they believed they could social engineer the fix.

I think I know what you meant? Or not?

Dang I guess I’m confused. Your understanding of the term ‘social engineering’ snd mine must be different cuz I can’t figure out the context here. I’m confused enough I just went snd looked it up.

Will’s video was all about taking responsibility and not whatever this is?

 

[12VoltInstalls]

Just a quick note about fatties...

I'm 90# overweight. I have an Aerospace Engineering degree. I have a job as an engineer in aviation. I have a second job that I do for fun that earns me a very respectable side income, and I'm the top post whore on a solar forum.

I just wanted to give the other fatties some hope that it is possible to make positive contributions to society - contrary to some of the sentiments recently expressed.

You know, I guess I took that ‘fat and lazy’ more euphemistically. I didn’t take his subsets to be exclusive by definition so much so that I felt defensive over my belly fat.
While probably you would benefit health wise by losing some weight- as I would- I’m pretty sure he was targeting the excuse-ridden nonproducers that haven’t been wrong or responsible for anything bad that’s happened to them a day in their lives.

 

[snoobler]

You know, I guess I took that ‘fat and lazy’ more euphemistically. I didn’t take his subsets to be exclusive by definition so much so that I felt defensive over my belly fat.
While probably you would benefit health wise by losing some weight- as I would- I’m pretty sure he was targeting the excuse-ridden nonproducers that haven’t been wrong or responsible for anything bad that’s happened to them a day in their lives.

You literally quoted him in the post above:

"I said you won't find hard working competent fat people. You can call it a label... some of us call it reality."

Don't mistake it for defensiveness. I simply wanted to provide a different perspective to this "reality" and provide hope for my fellow porkers.

 

[NwCali]

Lol...some mod deleted my post for being a political statement...

When all there is to this thread is a "political" statement...

Isn't that rich?