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Seems MPP dropped a new inverter...a split phase 10KW

Did Signature Solar/EG4 just completely admit to all the issues with their pre-18kPV inverters with that statement @SignatureSolarJames
"Admit to all the issues" what issues are they hiding or that we don't know about? Admission of what? Many of the issues EG4 had with voltronic was out of their control. What would you have done differently?

And the EG4 model seems to be better than the other garbage they are releasing. Did you see lithium solars video?
 
"Admit to all the issues" what issues are they hiding or that we don't know about? Admission of what? Many of the issues EG4 had with voltronic was out of their control. What would you have done differently?

And the EG4 model seems to be better than the other garbage they are releasing. Did you see lithium solars video?
In my opinion, continuing to sell these with known issues, maybe better than offerings a year ago like you mentioned, exacerbate the issue Signature Solar has with support and still seems to be the case. Just look at the Sig Solar Facebook forum and your own. Lots of comments of continuing product and support issues with 6000 and 6500 inverters.
 
In my opinion, continuing to sell these with known issues, even maybe though better than offerings a year ago like you mentioned, exasperated the issue Signature Solar has with support and still seems to be the case. Just look at the Sig Solar Facebook forum. Lots of comments of continuing product and support issues with 6000 and 6500 inverters.
They are supporting them everywhere they can. Imagine how many people have to be involved in this. How many employees James has hired just for this.
 
They are supporting them everywhere they can. Imagine how many people have to be involved in this. How many employees James has hired just for this.
Understood, but why keep selling them? From a business perspective, does it financially make sense with the additional support needed as well as the bad press. At some point have to stop the bleeding and just support what you already sold.

No need to respond to this. Didn’t mean to take over the new Voltronic inverter thread that someone will sell.
 
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I don't see it priced yet on their page. I was looking for a decent AIO unite to power a few deep freezes before investing in outback or Schneider latter.

I emailed Ian the other day, I've purchased 3 inverters from him the last few years and he always has been quite informative. My purpose of the email was to ask about his new warranty policy where support is thru MPP and not him on the MPP Solar inverters. His response was that he had been flooded with support questions by people who never purchased from him, meanwhile MPP has been selling direct to the end user bypassing him. I don't blame him for dropping support on these units. He did say he has hundred of LV6548's in stock yet. I did ask if any hardware changes have occurred but he didn't answer that question.

I had thought about purchasing a spare LV6548. I still might. But things are moving along with offerings from other manufacturers and if I did have an inverter failure, I might just move to something else that has good reports. The LV6548's I have just plain work, but if any hardware/firmware changes were done, then a new unit might not be a wise decision.
 
I bought another 2 of the SP6548 250v PV when Sungoldpower were clearing them out for $900.
They are great units sturdy as all hell although mine do make LED lights a little twinkly.

Obviously something went very wrong with the higher PV input versions made during the Covid era and they are well worth avoiding.
If you are looking for this kind of unit, check carefully when they were made, even the 250v PV version.
They are a good unit for the price, if you can find older ones.
 
Many of the issues EG4 had with voltronic was out of their control.
The manufacturing issues were out of their control but the support they got lumbered with. This is the risk/reward you have to gamble on when importing equipment made by someone else. Buy low, sell high and support it.
So anyone here that wants to import a product and be responsible for it after sale, here is a case study for you.
Buy cheap per container, maybe $500 a unit, sell for $1295... large profit and all is well until you find out the manufacturer has effed you over.
 
Understood, but why keep selling them? From a business perspective, does it financially make sense with the additional support needed as well as the bad press. At some point have to stop the bleeding and just support what you already sold.

No need to respond to this. Didn’t mean to take over the new Voltronic inverter thread that someone will sell.
Who would have thunk that selling cheap crap coupled with poor customer service and arrogance would ruin ones name and reputation over time?
 
Why should you care about back end supplier issues when it's sold as "EG4" inverters? Do you accept your Tesla not working properly if they chalk it up to a supplier problem out of their control?
Nope it's 100% distributors fault. But stating that they "admitted" to problems that we all know is not conclusive at all. They bear the burden, we all agree on that. And this is about judging of another voltronic inverter. I don't care who is selling it, but people will judge the suppliers ability to deliver a good product.

And these suppliers make the entire unit these days. Tesla actually makes cars. EG4 does not manufacture the voltronic inverter. So when voltronic comes out with a new inverter, we will use information from previous voltronic inverters.
 
All things considered, I don't think anyone's going to be selling voltronic in the next year. Just my opinion, I don't know what the distributors are going to do. Maybe sungold will still sell them but I think that's about it.
 
The new version seem to be worse and have more problems. When a company doesn't improve they usually disappear
 
And these suppliers make the entire unit these days. Tesla actually makes cars. EG4 does not manufacture the voltronic inverter. So when voltronic comes out with a new inverter, we will use information from previous voltronic inverters.
Assuming that's all true it's still not something customers buying branded products would or should be expected to care about. If your Tesla is not working properly, would you accept it if Tesla claimed it's a Panasonic battery problem out of their control? Most customers would not care about the explanation and expect the brand (regardless they manufacture the whole product or not) to make things right regardless of the back end supplier problems. If necessary, buy back is the way reputable brands fix product problems they can't fix.
 
Assuming that's all true it's still not something customers buying branded products would or should be expected to care about. If your Tesla is not working properly, would you accept it if Tesla claimed it's a Panasonic battery problem out of their control? Most customers would not care about the explanation and expect the brand (regardless they manufacture the whole product or not) to make things right regardless of the back end supplier problems. If necessary, buy back is the way reputable brands fix product problems they can't fix.
Did you not read my comment? I said it's 100% their fault. Please read the comment again. It's very simple to understand. And this is a diy forum where we try to judge what future products will be like. I don't care if it says sungold or some other random label, I'm going to use it to make assumptions about future products. How is that not clearly obvious to you
 
Assuming that's all true it's still not something customers buying branded products would or should be expected to care about. If your Tesla is not working properly, would you accept it if Tesla claimed it's a Panasonic battery problem out of their control? Most customers would not care about the explanation and expect the brand (regardless they manufacture the whole product or not) to make things right regardless of the back end supplier problems. If necessary, buy back is the way reputable brands fix product problems they can't fix.
Not sure if you realize this, but I have a YouTube channel that makes videos on these products. So I listen to people here to see what's happening with the products. No, a customer would not care who the supplier is. But there is a product that is not released yet, and we have tons of companies distributing their other units. So it doesn't take that big of a leap of the imagination to see that we are going to make assumptions on the future based on their past history.
 
Sungold has been running 3 different SRNE units now and powmr seems to have moved to those and away from their old suppliers as well
Seems like new companies came in, learned from the mistakes of others, and are starting to offer potentially more reliable or feature full units for a low cost
I don’t see the point in buying a voltronic today
I think eg4 will make competitive changes as well (ie their version of the lvx is no longer offered)
 
Sungold has been running 3 different SRNE units now and powmr seems to have moved to those and away from their old suppliers as well
Seems like new companies came in, learned from the mistakes of others, and are starting to offer potentially more reliable or feature full units for a low cost
I don’t see the point in buying a voltronic today
I think eg4 will make competitive changes as well (ie their version of the lvx is no longer offered)
Exactly
 
Sungold has been running 3 different SRNE units now and powmr seems to have moved to those and away from their old suppliers as well
Seems like new companies came in, learned from the mistakes of others, and are starting to offer potentially more reliable or feature full units for a low cost
I don’t see the point in buying a voltronic today
I think eg4 will make competitive changes as well (ie their version of the lvx is no longer offered)
Well that depends on the user I guess since I love the tp6048 I have and plan on getting more of them so I guess that means I love voltronic units and I will only buy my inverters from Sungold from now on since I like the service and this particular product. I could care less about the idle usage since I will compensate as needed for it to keep the LF over having a HF unit. Another reason I want to pick up a few more of the tp6048's has to do with having spares more than power needs.


But to each their own of course.
 
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