automatikdonn
Becoming Offgrid
Those are all extremely valuable points. I have been testing this theory of grid tied autotransformer to the grid transformer balancing. I see my A/T doing some work when a motor turns that is connected to the house panels, but the A/T is connected to the shop panel. The work it's doing is very very small (less than 1 amp), but none the less it does happen. I think for my situation this validates Ian's points in the video.*must* only If a circuit is derived from autotransformer.
I think it would be better to switch center-tap of autotransformer, so only derived when not fed from grid.
While in pass-through mode, autotransformer is not needed to establish neutral. When disconnected from grid, it is needed.
If neutral of branch circuit is hardwired to neutral of grid, that provides neutral/ground bonding (for fixed, not mobile applications.)
When inverter disconnects output L1 & L2 from grid and starts producing floating 240V output, connect center tap of transformer to neutral.
This could be accomplished inside inverter with 3PDT relay. Two poles connect L1 & L2 to grid in one position. Third pole connects N to autotransformer in other position.
(Either inverter is always connected to L1 & L2, or gets connected in other position, perhaps depending on whether it is grid interactive or an off-grid inverter.)
This avoids auto-transformer trying to rebalance grid and carrying current even when you have no loads (as Ian or someone showed), it avoids violating NEC because it doesn't derive a circuit while on grid, and it establishes a neutral (still ground bonded) when off grid.
Is there a way to control an external relay to accomplish this with GroWatt? Signaling relay programmable to show "on grid/off grid"? Tap into control signal of ground bonding relay? Tap into (isolated) grounding terminal of ground bond relay?
Ground bond relay connects neutral to ground when off grid. If screw has been removed to defeat dynamic bonding, that relay terminal (and PCB ring around screw hole) is open circuit when on-grid, connected to neutral off-grid. So just get a SPST relay, 120V coil, and wire coil from L1 to screw hole (but isolated from ground)?
For fail-safe (avoid lost neutral), use 3PDT relay. One position connects loads L1 & L2 to grid. Other position connects loads L1 & L2 to load panel on output of GroWatt and connects auto-transformer center-tap to neutral. Autotransformer hard-wired to load panel, no breaker. Load panel fed by GroWatt through breaker (sized for auto-transformer).
I think that is safe, but significantly limits 240V power (including two 120V loads on opposite legs) which can be powered on that loads panel with autotransformer. You can have a separate 240V-only loads panel.
The Victron autotransformer gets around current limit of autotransformer with a 3-pole breaker and monitor circuit. Breaker passes up to 100A through to loads. Autotransformer centertap is monitored by current transformer, and temperature is monitored. If either limit is violated, 3rd pole is remote tripped, tripping the other two poles. The Victron has dynamic bonding of neutral to ground. It does not dynamically switch neutral.
I think it does not comply with the NEC rules quoted above (derives neutral for loads and does not connect to neutral of grid.) Perhaps I could rewire it so it does.
The setup for my system could not be any more complex. I have to navigate how to do this all and not cause some grid side issue. After evaluating the potential to use isolation transformer's VS auto transformers - I am again leaning back towards auto transformer. I also need to have a method for easy operations my unskilled users.. so the system needs to be simple enough it doesn't take a 100 page instruction manual to operate.
I am going to start a different thread - because this one is so full of focused information on the OP post - I want to steer clear of hijacking.