I didnt know these had that much potential for risk.
Unintended consequences.
You were doing okay with your original post, then you had to open your mouth and say something so ridiculously stupid its on the level of "contaminating the galaxy with our space probes."What gets me is it takes energy to move mass... Article says the ford f150 lightning weighs 2-3,000 lbs more than its gasoline counterpart. Transferring the energy from a fuel source to a powerplant to the grid to the home/charger, then to the batteries then to the motor, will result in a lot of loss of efficiency. As opposed to the fuel combusting directly in the machine driving the wheels.
Not sure all is as it appears to be.
What percentage of collisions involve semi trucks? So by your logic should we all shift to vehicles that weigh 80,000 lbs?You were doing okay with your original post, then you had to open your mouth and say something so ridiculously stupid its on the level of "contaminating the galaxy with our space probes."
Heavier vehicles are a problem, but its a problem we've been dealing with every year as people move away from small vehicles and into SUV's and pickup trucks.
There is no solution for the meeting of a semi-truck and a sub-compact 2 door with barely enough room for a bag of groceries.
If you think that was my logic, see a doctor.What percentage of collisions involve semi trucks? So by your logic should we all shift to vehicles that weigh 80,000 lbs?
The problem with lighter vehicles is their capacity to do work like tow a boat or a trailer, or hold a family with a load of groceries, or even transport a television or a new patio set.If we want to reduce carbon footprint lighter vehicles are logical.
Vehicle fatalities have been falling since the 1970's as vehicles get safer and safer. I was wondering about it after your comment so I just looked it up. I see no reason that trend will not continue.The point is an ICE vehicle getting into a collision with an EV counterpart is much higher risk of a lethal outcome. Statistically speaking this WILL lead to more highway deaths, not considering the outlier of the rare semi collisions.
When it comes to very large vehicles, I think bumper height is a bigger concern than the actual impact. But I was thinking about a 4wd pickup truck against a Ford Focus, not so much a semi truck in that instance. There has never been much of anything we can do about that other than more driver safety stuff to mitigate the g-forces.Note the battery pack weight alone will not make the EV more survivable in a collision with a semi.
Once you go SUV, you never go back..SUVs were gaining in popularity due to low gas prices, a situation that isnt permanent.
Says the guy who's an engineer.. Oh wait.. that's not you, that's me."This is just a progression of technology.. We move forward, figure out what we need to do better, correct, then take another step forward."
Bullshit. In the catagory of highway safety, adding 2,000 lbs to cars is absolutely NOT a progression, nothing that can be corrected, and is going to kill a lot more people.
It absolutely is, agree with @MurphyGuy."This is just a progression of technology.. We move forward, figure out what we need to do better, correct, then take another step forward."
What? How is improving efficiency not a progression?Bullshit. In the catagory of highway safety, adding 2,000 lbs to cars is absolutely NOT a progression, nothing that can be corrected, and is going to kill a lot more people.
Weight doesnt matter.It absolutely is, agree with @MurphyGuy.
Do you have any idea the kind of the troubleshooting and problem solving that goes into automotive manufacturing processes? How about quality processes that make sure everything meets spec? I've been working in automotive manufacturing for just over a decade, hands on assembly work to upper management ...
What? How is improving efficiency not a progression?
How is it going to kill a lot more people? Cars are getting safer and safer all the time, have you every had your anti lock brakes activate on ice and had to stop on ice or abruptly without them?
If people want to be idiots (or have fun ?) in vehicles they are going to do it regardless what they are driving... The weight doesn't matter.
Says the guy who's an engineer.. Oh wait.. that's not you, that's me.
Have you been to TRW's impact science and testing facility? I have.. spent a whole week there because my factory helped process the anchors and airbag components that save your sorry ass when you decide that texting is more important than paying attention to the road.
So lets try this another way genius.. Why? Why would adding more weight to a car result in a higher death rate? What is the functional mechanism which would cause that higher death rate? What is the difference between a 2000 lb car running into a solid concrete wall and a 4000 lb car running into a solid concrete wall?
What is the mechanical difference between a 2000 lb car hitting a 10,000 lb truck or a 10,000 lb truck hitting a 10,000 lb truck?
Only if there is an accident. Ever hear of airbags, seat belts, crush zones, crash test dummies? The point I'm trying to make, it's not the heavier cars it's the moronic drivers behind the wheel...Weight doesnt matter.
Are you serious or just trolling me. A car that outweighs yours by 2000 lbs will kill you. The negative Gs turn your internal organs to mush.
The article directly quotes the NTSB head.
I'm so sick of warning and risks fear tactics buzz word bull crap and it's way to early for me to go there. Of course there's a risk that people should be aware of."NTSB head warns of risks posed by heavy electric vehicles colliding with lighter cars"
I guess she just woke up and decided to give a press conference for a prank.
Lol. Yea I know all about Newton and no I'm not trolling you.Ever hear of Isaac Newton?
SNAPI should have expected this intellectual dishonesty from a cockmonger like you. Cars against concrete?
FUCK YOU.
The heavier weight of an EV does come with some increased risks to other vehicles, but only in a very small set of circumstances where the other vehicle is prevented from physically moving away from the impact point. For example, when traffic is stopped and the last car in the line gets rear ended by someone.. the last car in the line is prevented from moving forward as a result of the impact because there are more cars in front of it.The danger is to occupants of the car the EV hits, not to the EVs occupants. You know this of course but youre just here to troll.
Eat my shorts you insignificant fuckstick.
Oh wait... wait.. Oh man.. I'm laughing so hard I almost spit my coffee out.So I guess youre saying this government official is completely full of shit right? Her press conference was made up lies right? A conspiracy against EVs, is that it? Oh but you know better, right?
I get what you are saying but… always a “but”It absolutely is, agree with @MurphyGuy.
Do you have any idea the kind of the troubleshooting and problem solving that goes into automotive manufacturing processes? How about quality processes that make sure everything meets spec? I've been working in automotive manufacturing for just over a decade, hands on assembly work to upper management ...
What? How is improving efficiency not a progression?
How is it going to kill a lot more people? Cars are getting safer and safer all the time, have you every had your anti lock brakes activate on ice and had to stop on ice or abruptly without them?
If people want to be idiots (or have fun ?) in vehicles they are going to do it regardless what they are driving... The weight doesn't matter.
The government lied about covid 19, the government lied about 911, lied about the election, lied about the moon landings, but when some random obscure administrator says EV's are going to kill more people, they're all of a sudden telling the truth?