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Solar assistant: do you use it?

Do you use solar assistant with your solar system

  • Yes

  • I used to, not anymore

  • No but I plan to use it one day

  • No and I don't see a reason to purchase it


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I used to use it with my EG4 6500s. But unfortunately it does not work with my upgrade to Schneider XW pro. I really like solar assistant and wish they would adapt it to Schneider.
 
I've been using SA at my remote cabin for about six months, seems to work fine. No Internet (yet) at that locations so I can't comment on how it works remotely. I have it connected to a cheap wireless router and monitor it on my Android phone when I'm at the cabin.
 
SA is for people who can't stop changing things or don't have stable, reliable systems. Change my mind.

If you're constantly monitoring your system you probably need a bigger one or a more reliable one. If your system isn't as reliable as the grid you built it wrong. How many people with a grid system only monitor it all the time with an app ??
 
SA is for people who can't stop changing things or don't have stable, reliable systems. Change my mind.

If you're constantly monitoring your system you probably need a bigger one or a more reliable one. If your system isn't as reliable as the grid you built it wrong. How many people with a grid system only monitor it all the time with an app ??
The power company monitors the grid. Would you feel secure if they just let it run unattended?
 
SA is for people who can't stop changing things or don't have stable, reliable systems. Change my mind.
I don't fit that demographic.
My system needs zero attention and is more reliable than the grid. I rarely change the settings, unless I am testing something.
I do look at it a few times a day. Not because it's required. Just because I enjoy seeing how much power I'm making. Or just to show someone else who asks me about solar.
You don't have to monitor the grid, that's the grid suppliers job.
I am my grid supplier.
 
SA is for people who can't stop changing things or don't have stable, reliable systems. Change my mind.

If you're constantly monitoring your system you probably need a bigger one or a more reliable one. If your system isn't as reliable as the grid you built it wrong. How many people with a grid system only monitor it all the time with an app ??
I monitor my grid usage with two Emporia Vues on every circuit of my house across two breaker boxes, including smart plugs for individual devices.

I can't stop changing things and I don't have a stable, reliable system though.
 
I'd consider it if my inverter was supported. Unfortunately, I've emailed them several times asking how I can help get it supported (I have the modbus maps, and programming experience.. However, they've never even replied to say "no thanks"
If you're up for a challenge, check out https://diysolarforum.com/threads/announcing-wombatt-monitoring-batteries-and-inverters.69351/

Given the modbus maps (modbus RTU? I haven't added modbus ASCII yet) it should be straighforward to add support for your inverter and at least use HomeAssistant or anything else that can import text or JSON. Reach out to me privately if you want to work together on adding support for monitoring your inverters.
 
SA is for people who can't stop changing things or don't have stable, reliable systems. Change my mind.

If you're constantly monitoring your system you probably need a bigger one or a more reliable one. If your system isn't as reliable as the grid you built it wrong. How many people with a grid system only monitor it all the time with an app ??
i'll change your mind....

our power rate flucuate every hour...
SA + Home assistant allows me to sell when power is expensive and if i need to buy, allows me to buy when very cheap...
my payback time just went from 4 years to 6 months, and will generate quite a bit of change after that.....

rates today :

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and unlike most github/opensource porjects , took me less than 30 minutes to setup

did i mention i can actually get paid charging my batteries ?

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SA is for people who can't stop changing things or don't have stable, reliable systems. Change my mind.

If you're constantly monitoring your system you probably need a bigger one or a more reliable one. If your system isn't as reliable as the grid you built it wrong. How many people with a grid system only monitor it all the time with an app ??
Your comments though would include more than just Solar Assistant. Basically anyone that uses any monitoring software at all or if you look at the display of the inverter regularly or have meters/gauges all over the wall around your system, you probably need a bigger or a more reliable system... Solar Assistant is just a tool. It gives you access to your system so you don't have to walk to wherever your system is located and slap a current meter on a cable or go through an archaic display to see how your system is performing.

Not everyone uses SA to control their system. I would imagine some people like to keep an eye on their investment. I've come to realize a lot of people interested in solar have an IT/computer/engineering background. Lots of those people just like seeing the data. If you don't, that's fine.

Not everyone can afford to put in a system that completely covers 100% of their wants/needs out of the gate. That's one of the appealing things about solar though. You can start small and slowly grow your system overtime, but that might mean you have to keep a closer eye on things.

Do I use SA to change things, yup
Do I need a larger system, yup
Do I like just seeing the data, yup
 
SA is for people who can't stop changing things or don't have stable, reliable systems. Change my mind.

I run with grid turned off in my house. Is that stable enough?

I don't change settings either.

If you're constantly monitoring your system you probably need a bigger one or a more reliable one.

Running 24/7 isn't stable?

I rarely get below 60% SOC, is my system big enough?

If your system isn't as reliable as the grid you built it wrong.

Grid is turned off. Is that reliable according to your definition of reliable?

How many people with a grid system only monitor it all the time with an app ??
Do you think people with SA sit there all day watching the SA screen? I doubt it, people have a life other than a solar system.

I use mine for historical data collection and remote access from anywhere. The SOC and loads graphs are helpful if I want to see over a time frame how much power it takes to run a load that might be optional or a dump load.

It appears you are trolling?
 
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Without SA I doubt these would be so easily achieved.
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It is relatively easy, but maybe not for everyone. Running commands from HA in the machine that is hooked to my inverters/batteries required creating a new user, an SSH key, and adding a shell script. Then a couple of HA helpers and a few lines like the following did the trick:
YAML:
shell_command:
  eg4_display_enable: /usr/bin/ssh -p 3922 -i /config/.ssh/id_ed25519 -o 'StrictHostKeyChecking=no' ha@10.2.1.2 display_enable
  eg4_display_disable: /usr/bin/ssh -p 3922 -i /config/.ssh/id_ed25519 -o 'StrictHostKeyChecking=no' ha@10.2.1.2 display_disable
  eg4_source_priority_usb: /usr/bin/ssh -p 3922 -i /config/.ssh/id_ed25519 -o 'StrictHostKeyChecking=no' ha@10.2.1.2 source_priority_usb
  eg4_source_priority_sub: /usr/bin/ssh -p 3922 -i /config/.ssh/id_ed25519 -o 'StrictHostKeyChecking=no' ha@10.2.1.2 source_priority_sub
  eg4_source_priority_sbu: /usr/bin/ssh -p 3922 -i /config/.ssh/id_ed25519 -o 'StrictHostKeyChecking=no' ha@10.2.1.2 source_priority_sbu
 
I can't see why not but until someone does it, who can be sure?

What I'm not sure about is whether SA can operate with just batteries/BMS and not be connected to an inverter.

I have a spare RPi4 and it has crossed my mind to monitor my server rack batteries/PACE BMSs separately as SA currently is monitoring my Victron Smart Shunt. Multiple battery inputs is an often requested feature for SA to add. Not sure if/when it will make an appearance but it would be helpful. I so would like to be capturing all the cell voltage data.
What type of batteries do you have? Are there Modbus maps available for them?
 
What type of batteries do you have? Are there Modbus maps available for them?
you should be looking for the modbus maps for the PACEbms..

that will get you loads and loads of batteries at the same time

this gentleman has them for the seplos bms
 
Yes,

My next build will include it or something that can pull the same metrics (I already run a prometheus / grafana setup at home), so either the data will dump into that existing solution or solar-assistant will be used and data sourced for it.
 
You can't miss some thing you never had. The EG4 monitor has been good enough for me.
 
i'll change your mind....

our power rate flucuate every hour...
SA + Home assistant allows me to sell when power is expensive and if i need to buy, allows me to buy when very cheap...
my payback time just went from 4 years to 6 months, and will generate quite a bit of change after that.....

rates today :

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and unlike most github/opensource porjects , took me less than 30 minutes to setup

did i mention i can actually get paid charging my batteries ?

View attachment 168153

You created rhe wrong solution to your problem. The solution is to move where rates don't fluctuate every hour.
 
I use it. After a few months of screwing with watchpower I wouldn't go without SA, especially after connecting my JBD's.

I'm curious what the reasoning behind all the no votes is. I'd bet that vote would change if they used SA.
 
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