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Epever 3210AN charge controller dropping out of MPPT mode

Not that I'm aware of. They always seem to be doing a very good job of getting every watt that the light will allow.

They typically start off at 1 watt in the morning and will follow a bell curve until they hit charge voltage.


please tell me what is your battery voltage and what is the solar panel voltage?
 
Victron also has some kind of current level, does the mppt switch off in low light?
I’ve been following this for educational purposes. While I have experienced the “high-voltage cutout bug” with several different Epever units I have not seen any low-light issues with them any differently than not enough light.
And I say this being that here in my locale of Vermont we have a lot of cloudy days due to the jet stream, “lake effect” and other moisture from essentially hundreds of miles west and southwest, and the pressure drop over the green mountain spine. Whether my first year Windy Nation pwm, a variety of Epevers 30A to 60A, an MPP SCC, and a cheapo powMR 60A mppt; they all shrink to 5%-20% of potential in low light from clouds. In good sun, early and late in the day still are quite low to nearly ineffective until the sun angle comes about in the morning, and drop rapidly nearing sunset.

Victron is good stuff and though I haven’t bought any (yet?) I read the comparisons with a grain of salt- there is no magic pill in Victron other than quality and durability. The ancillary robust monitoring, accessories, etc., should be available from such a premium brand as Victron. And they are.

I extend the grain of salt to Epever complaints, too. You can make ‘tight’ settings (very close together limit settings) and create a number of switching and charge issues quite easily, but other than the full-sun higher state of charge voltage spike ‘bug’ (high voltage cutout bug) that apparently has been solved I somehow managed to attain or exceed expected/calculated output goals from them.

With the tens of thousands of people successfully using Epever offgrid I have difficulty swallowing that they are inherently junk. Many of the Epever complaint stream fall into the same symptoms which I experienced when a faulty batch of MC4s had me spinning in circles with what turned out to be siphoning of water into the connectors with temperature cycles. Once I replaced them all I have not had those issues again. And on the bright side (with some guidance from this forum) I went through extreme testing of voltage drop through connections with calculations down to milliohms proving where the issues originated. Pleasing to verify my work was sound.

You won’t be unhappy with Victron. However, don’t think of it as a magic pill. The human element plays a large part in many people’s equipment ‘failure’ experience.
 
You won’t be unhappy with Victron. However, don’t think of it as a magic pill. The human element plays a large part in many people’s equipment ‘failure’ experience.
My priority was to obtain energy from the sun in winter, when there is little sun.If I had known that the mpt solar controller would not work up to 1.5 amperes, I would have taken a cheap PWM controller and connected the panels in parallel.
 
the operating current threshold is mppt 0.6 amperes in the stuck straight through mode, 14 volts at the input.

Reconnecting the solar panel activates mode mppt and the panel current becomes 0.5 amps with high voltage input
 
the operating current threshold is mppt 0.6 amperes in the stuck straight through mode, 14 volts at the input.

Reconnecting the solar panel activates mode mppt and the panel current becomes 0.5 amps with high voltage input
Let EPever know this. They need to fix the firmware
 
Reflashing didn't help.
up to 0.4 ampere it is not capable of operating in mppt mode.
at a current of 0.5 amperes and above, it operates in mode mppt only after disconnecting and connecting the solar panel.
 
I filmed the problem of the 1.5 ampere response threshold for mppt operation (an unpleasant secret surprise from Epever)
 
I filmed the problem of the 1.5 ampere response threshold for mppt operation (an unpleasant secret surprise from Epever)

So before resetting the breaker you had...

PV

1.16A

13.44v

15.6w

Then after resetting the breaker you got...

PV

1.04A

51.59v

53.59w

That's the same problem I was having with my multiple Epevers as well. They would randomly lock PV voltage down low and I would only receive a very low wattage from the panels.
 
Yep, same thing I was seeing with my 4215BN. I was going to build an automatic disconnect circuit to break the connection to the panel if it sensed this, but new Epever FW for my 4215BN permanently fixed the problem.
 
Yep, same thing I was seeing with my 4215BN. I was going to build an automatic disconnect circuit to break the connection to the panel if it sensed this, but new Epever FW for my 4215BN permanently fixed the problem.
Epever They did not provide me with the latest firmware, flashing the firmware did not help me,
and now I don’t have the latest firmware installed
 

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Epever They did not provide me with the latest firmware, flashing the firmware did not help me,
and now I don’t have the latest firmware installed
Could you explain more? It made no difference?

I'm surprised I didn't see this thread, since it's the exact controller I have... and I have the exact same issue. However it doesn't seem to be specific to our controllers, but is universal to Epever MPPTs. While the 60 min MPPT reset interval means that it can get stuck longer than Victron, the real issue for both of us is that a cloud will drop the input panel amperage below 1.5A (I was told this is the cutoff and it seems about right), in which case the controller goes into PWM mode, and then drops the panel voltage all the way down to ~14V (just above battery voltage)... which for a 24V panel system is ~1/2 the power we should be getting.

I'm curious about this part as well:
Reflashing didn't help.
up to 0.4 ampere it is not capable of operating in mppt mode.
at a current of 0.5 amperes and above, it operates in mode mppt only after disconnecting and connecting the solar panel.
It is difficult to tell exactly what is going on due to a lack of data logging, but if there is firmware that allows it to function in MPPT above .5A rather than requiring 1.5A, that is a positive step. The "disconnecting and connecting the solar panel" is what the controller basically does when it resets, so most likely if you had waited, it would have "fixed" itself when the amps were >.5.

I was sent new firmware that gives a 20 min reset interval rather than 60 min, but I don't expect that to help much without a lower amp cutoff. .5A would be fine for me. Or as I suggested to them, set a lower limit of 70% of OC voltage whenever the reset happens. I'm waiting for a cable to update firmware.

I responded to this thread: https://diysolarforum.com/threads/e...-dropping-out-of-mppt-mode.52189/post-1231486
 
Just was told that 1.5A refers to the battery side and not the panel/input, while I've been thinking it was the panel. That is why you were seeing it drop out of MPPT when it got < .5A on the panel, because you have them wired for higher voltage.
 

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