ghostwriter66
"Here - Hold my Beer"
OK ... so of course I am a glutton for punishment and obviously after kicking over the beehive on my last post -- https://diysolarforum.com/threads/3...red-delivered-by-alithor-new-energy-co.20063/ where i found the batteries for (32) for 3143 i thought - what the hell - its Friday - its a half day -- our high today is going to be 93 - so lets beat this horse to death ---
I was contacted by SHENZHEN STARMAX ENERGY TECHNOLOGY COMPANY LTD and offered 32 280aH New Grade batteries .. delivered .. door to door for $2948.
They said that they would guarantee that the batteries were all tested (voltage and resistance) and that it would also include the longer welded 6 mm stud mounts, busbars and nuts. They also said that they would guarantee a 30-45 day delivery.
SOOO being out in the middle of nowhere Texas and not having anything to do when i get off except go back to the housing unit and watch NETFLIX ... I thought that I would reach out to EVE Energy Company in China and see why there was such a difference in pricing that we are seeing here ... some of the vendors on this board are selling (32) for 4444 and some are down to $2198 - so whats the difference ???
SO keeping in mind that my Chinese is the equilivant of DORA speaking Spanish I was kind of happy that the person I was talking to was at least half way fluent in English ...
SO - basically it sot of boils down to a "market grab" - PLUS an over abundance of Lithium (core) surplus ... In about June of 2018 as TESLA announced they were going to make most of their battery stuff in China, Lithium ore producers rushed to deliver more supply, overwhelming the pace of demand and that has continued for the last 2-3 years .... THEN a Chinese Govt forecast in DEC 2020 forecasted that the Lithium prices would rise in March 2021 (which it didn't) and companies bought even more thinking that they needed to stock up when they could -- including EVE ... so now - lots of Lithium stuck under ppl's desks ...
The market plays out this way ..
EVE 3%
LISHEN 3%
BYD 17%
CATL 51%
OTHERS 26%
EVE’s has got to build market share (keeping prices low and sell allot) AND keep the stockholders happy (sell the crap out of them) ... otherwise they are afraid that they will be like the 30 other Lithium companies that existed 2 years ago that got swallowed up. Eve feels that like every other company that unless they have a distinctive edge in their products, they will be forced to exit the battery race - thus their quality has improved drastically over the last 18 months - they have doubled their quality control and testing --AND -- THEY HAVE MADE THEIR BATTERY PRICING MORE ATTRACTIVE to companies like SHENZHEN STARMAX ENERGY TECHNOLOGY COMPANY LTD that is using the same business model as EVE and trying to sell as many as they can in order to look attractive to either stockholders or future acquisitions ...
SO - I dropped another order for (32) this morning from this company ... I will let you know -- I got 64 total coming in from 2 separate companies .. both with very low prices ... SHENZHEN STARMAX ENERGY TECHNOLOGY COMPANY LTD was at 2948 and the other was at 3142 ...
I am working with a girl by the name of ENYA SHAO at STARMAX.
I AM NOT AFFILIATED WITH ANY OF THESE PPL.... I DON'T GET ANYTHING FREE OR A KICKBACK OR ANYTHING --I MAY GET A BOX OF BRICKS FOR ALL I KNOW... I HAVE HOWEVER GOT A COUPLE OF PROPOSALS FOR MARRIAGE THAT I AM CONSIDERING BUT THATS A DIFFERENT THREAD ...
SOOO with all of that said -- I still do not know of any reason that some are selling for 4444 and some for 2198 (1/2 the price) ... as for me - I'll take the cheapest - test the hell out of them - if they are bad then tell my CCC and get my money back ... BUT talking to Enya - I think that I will be OK ....
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They said that they would guarantee that the batteries were all tested (voltage and resistance) and that it would also include the longer welded 6 mm stud mounts, busbars and nuts. They also said that they would guarantee a 30-45 day delivery.
SOOO being out in the middle of nowhere Texas and not having anything to do when i get off except go back to the housing unit and watch NETFLIX ... I thought that I would reach out to EVE Energy Company in China and see why there was such a difference in pricing that we are seeing here ... some of the vendors on this board are selling (32) for 4444 and some are down to $2198 - so whats the difference ???
SO keeping in mind that my Chinese is the equilivant of DORA speaking Spanish I was kind of happy that the person I was talking to was at least half way fluent in English ...
SO - basically it sot of boils down to a "market grab" - PLUS an over abundance of Lithium (core) surplus ... In about June of 2018 as TESLA announced they were going to make most of their battery stuff in China, Lithium ore producers rushed to deliver more supply, overwhelming the pace of demand and that has continued for the last 2-3 years .... THEN a Chinese Govt forecast in DEC 2020 forecasted that the Lithium prices would rise in March 2021 (which it didn't) and companies bought even more thinking that they needed to stock up when they could -- including EVE ... so now - lots of Lithium stuck under ppl's desks ...
The market plays out this way ..
EVE 3%
LISHEN 3%
BYD 17%
CATL 51%
OTHERS 26%
EVE’s has got to build market share (keeping prices low and sell allot) AND keep the stockholders happy (sell the crap out of them) ... otherwise they are afraid that they will be like the 30 other Lithium companies that existed 2 years ago that got swallowed up. Eve feels that like every other company that unless they have a distinctive edge in their products, they will be forced to exit the battery race - thus their quality has improved drastically over the last 18 months - they have doubled their quality control and testing --AND -- THEY HAVE MADE THEIR BATTERY PRICING MORE ATTRACTIVE to companies like SHENZHEN STARMAX ENERGY TECHNOLOGY COMPANY LTD that is using the same business model as EVE and trying to sell as many as they can in order to look attractive to either stockholders or future acquisitions ...
SO - I dropped another order for (32) this morning from this company ... I will let you know -- I got 64 total coming in from 2 separate companies .. both with very low prices ... SHENZHEN STARMAX ENERGY TECHNOLOGY COMPANY LTD was at 2948 and the other was at 3142 ...
I am working with a girl by the name of ENYA SHAO at STARMAX.
I AM NOT AFFILIATED WITH ANY OF THESE PPL.... I DON'T GET ANYTHING FREE OR A KICKBACK OR ANYTHING --I MAY GET A BOX OF BRICKS FOR ALL I KNOW... I HAVE HOWEVER GOT A COUPLE OF PROPOSALS FOR MARRIAGE THAT I AM CONSIDERING BUT THATS A DIFFERENT THREAD ...
SOOO with all of that said -- I still do not know of any reason that some are selling for 4444 and some for 2198 (1/2 the price) ... as for me - I'll take the cheapest - test the hell out of them - if they are bad then tell my CCC and get my money back ... BUT talking to Enya - I think that I will be OK ....
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