Are you sure thats not for the month?
Whats your average KWH hour household ?
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27.2 kwh/day. We have gas appliances as well as a gas furnace and water heater, which aren't factored into the average.
Trukinbear
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20 miles down the coast from the Oregon/California border - a narrow strip of spring follows the coast up almost into Washington. Go a few miles inland and things are very different.
That's only a valid comparison if you're using a heat pump. When heating, you have the option of fire. You don't get that option with cooling.
ArthurEld
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We use about 25kwh/day average. 40kwh/day for very hot days.
We have no gas here.
We have no gas here.
My neighbor has a 3 story 3200 sq-ft timber frame with mega-insulated SIPs. They use about 6kWh/day.
BUT it's basically just lights, a fridge and the clothes washer, dishwasher. The house is so well insulated, they don't have A/C, and they need very little heat. If they need heat, they typically fire up their wood burning stove, so the furnace is rarely used.
Stove/oven, Dryer, water heater/furnace are all propane and even his well pump is run from a diesel generator - about 4-6 hours per week (working to get this run via PV w/6kW inverter.
We use well more than that in a 5th wheel RV parked 1/4 mile away as we use an electric water heater and an absorption fridge (can use 5kWh/day on its own).
Moral to the above?
Don't be too impressed with other's results until you know the deets...
BUT it's basically just lights, a fridge and the clothes washer, dishwasher. The house is so well insulated, they don't have A/C, and they need very little heat. If they need heat, they typically fire up their wood burning stove, so the furnace is rarely used.
Stove/oven, Dryer, water heater/furnace are all propane and even his well pump is run from a diesel generator - about 4-6 hours per week (working to get this run via PV w/6kW inverter.
We use well more than that in a 5th wheel RV parked 1/4 mile away as we use an electric water heater and an absorption fridge (can use 5kWh/day on its own).
Moral to the above?
Don't be too impressed with other's results until you know the deets...
Worth noting that at $2.50/gallon (a little above average), 900 gallons of propane only cost about $400/year less than what we pay for our mega-consumption of electricity in the Phoenix area.
for 30 days, 800 KWH,
That is on TOP of my nearly $130 natural gas bill for heating.
When I use my roof deicing heating coils, my electric is around $200 and extra 400 KWH
I am cheap, I mean value conscious and lights are nearly all LEDs, Front loading washing machine that runs 2x week on average. I have up trying to figure out what is using my power.
kendive
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Wow power is alot there. Ours is around 13 cent a kWh with all the tax and all included.
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Ampster
Renewable Energy Hobbyist
About 12 kWhrs average per day household use including hybrid electric water heater and electric dryer. Gas cooking and heating.
All utility rates, gasoline prices, property taxes, real estate costs, sales tax, income tax, pretty much everything is a ripoff here. We'd be out of here except for elderly parents who cannot be convinced to leave. Sigh...
I assume those are two separate devices?
hybrid electric water heater = heat pump + element to push them to final temp?
kendive
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800 KWH a day? Or is that per month?
Solarsteven
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Hi i have a 1830sf house but in Scotland we use 7kw a day in summer and 11kw a day in Winter.
We have gas for heating and hot water
There is me partner and two teen age kids
We have gas for heating and hot water
There is me partner and two teen age kids
About 35 average over the year. 1800sq ft, all electric, 2 people. We run AC and heat both for several months a year.
Solarsteven
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We have on AC a very hot summers day for us is 25c(77f) but winter is maybe -5c (23f)
All energy bills £175 per month ($238)
Gas can be on 8/9 Months a year for heating (shower , hot water and cooker top is gas)
All energy bills £175 per month ($238)
Gas can be on 8/9 Months a year for heating (shower , hot water and cooker top is gas)
Steve_S
Offgrid Cabineer, N.E. Ontario, Canada
Gotta say.. WOW some folks are seriously heavy on power use.
I could tell you that prior to my building my place, living in a "regular" structure, I used a lot more but that was due to structural & design deficiencies. I designed & built my home to be as energy efficient as I could... For all intents & purposes, it is a SIP (Structural Insulated Panel) type of construction. R32 walls which are also Thermally broken & with Rainscreen siding installation, R45 Cathedral Roof, also thermally broken and using a Cool Roof system. Even the foundation is a FPSF (Frost Protected Slab Foundation) with 4" of HD-XPS for R20 (code requires R10) which has Radiant Heating.
I'm averaging 3.5kwh per day, year round !
Before moving onto my property, I was easily using double that, after having trimmed off excess "junk" and switched to high efficiency appliances and devices.
But is IS a cheat - well not really...
The house cools itself in summer because of the roof & wall systems, the building does not absorb exterior heat. The slab once cooled acts as a thermo-regulator and as such, the house never gets warmer than 26°C/°78F, even when it is 38°C / 100°F outside. Again, also due to the Thermally broken walls & roof with the screening system, that prevents the cold outside from sucking the heat out of the structure.
Hot Water (On-Demand System), Radiant Heating (On-Demand System with glycol), cook stove are LPG (Propane) and the most I have used in one full year (12 months) was two 310 litre tanks for a total of 620 litres of propane. LPG was selected in advance for using BIO-GAS. Jetting etc don't have to be changed for it and the pressure regulators are identical. BTW, People in Alaska, North West Territories use BioGas successfully as well as the rest of the world... some places are just regressively slow to adopt the tech.
I could tell you that prior to my building my place, living in a "regular" structure, I used a lot more but that was due to structural & design deficiencies. I designed & built my home to be as energy efficient as I could... For all intents & purposes, it is a SIP (Structural Insulated Panel) type of construction. R32 walls which are also Thermally broken & with Rainscreen siding installation, R45 Cathedral Roof, also thermally broken and using a Cool Roof system. Even the foundation is a FPSF (Frost Protected Slab Foundation) with 4" of HD-XPS for R20 (code requires R10) which has Radiant Heating.
I'm averaging 3.5kwh per day, year round !
Before moving onto my property, I was easily using double that, after having trimmed off excess "junk" and switched to high efficiency appliances and devices.
But is IS a cheat - well not really...
The house cools itself in summer because of the roof & wall systems, the building does not absorb exterior heat. The slab once cooled acts as a thermo-regulator and as such, the house never gets warmer than 26°C/°78F, even when it is 38°C / 100°F outside. Again, also due to the Thermally broken walls & roof with the screening system, that prevents the cold outside from sucking the heat out of the structure.
Hot Water (On-Demand System), Radiant Heating (On-Demand System with glycol), cook stove are LPG (Propane) and the most I have used in one full year (12 months) was two 310 litre tanks for a total of 620 litres of propane. LPG was selected in advance for using BIO-GAS. Jetting etc don't have to be changed for it and the pressure regulators are identical. BTW, People in Alaska, North West Territories use BioGas successfully as well as the rest of the world... some places are just regressively slow to adopt the tech.
Sverige
A Brit in Sweden
Here in Sweden we get away with not running AC during the summer, but it’s the winter when the bigger bills come, as our house has electric heating (ground source heat pump) and temps can get to -10C regularly and to -30C rarely.
I’ve been on a campaign of reducing our consumption over the last few years and got us down from nearly 12,000kWh per year to under 5,000kWh this year. That’s an average of 13.4kWh/day and it’s a 1670 sq ft 2 storey house. The reductions have come from the combined effects of all sorts of measures I’ve taken. Lots of insulation improvements. More efficient appliances, killing standby consumption by switching off at the wall, etc.. The only contribution from solar began from Oct 2020, so I’m hoping to further reduce the numbers next year to keep up my year on year improvements. It’s a rewarding and addictive game! To me it made sense to get the energy consumption under control before trying to use solar power to take some of the load, as the alternative of continuing to be profligate and wasting power gets far more expensive when you have to buy a whole load more solar gear. My interest in solar actually came as a result of needing to find a way to keep winning this game
I may as well add these stats which I’ve kept track of since moving into this house in Apr 2016. The cumulative figures represent the total of the prior 12 months consumption / cost and the cost figures are in Swedish Kronor (multiply by 0.12 for USD). 1 KWh of electricity costs1.1 kronor or $0.13 here.
I’ve been on a campaign of reducing our consumption over the last few years and got us down from nearly 12,000kWh per year to under 5,000kWh this year. That’s an average of 13.4kWh/day and it’s a 1670 sq ft 2 storey house. The reductions have come from the combined effects of all sorts of measures I’ve taken. Lots of insulation improvements. More efficient appliances, killing standby consumption by switching off at the wall, etc.. The only contribution from solar began from Oct 2020, so I’m hoping to further reduce the numbers next year to keep up my year on year improvements. It’s a rewarding and addictive game! To me it made sense to get the energy consumption under control before trying to use solar power to take some of the load, as the alternative of continuing to be profligate and wasting power gets far more expensive when you have to buy a whole load more solar gear. My interest in solar actually came as a result of needing to find a way to keep winning this game
I may as well add these stats which I’ve kept track of since moving into this house in Apr 2016. The cumulative figures represent the total of the prior 12 months consumption / cost and the cost figures are in Swedish Kronor (multiply by 0.12 for USD). 1 KWh of electricity costs1.1 kronor or $0.13 here.
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800 KWH a month,
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