Will please test a Gyll battery

[EricRobert]

Hey Will, I love your videos. Maybe I missed it but have you gotten your hands on one of these Gyll batteries? They look pretty amazing for the price.

lifepo4 lithium battery off grid solar

This Gyll 51.2V (48V) LiFePo4 5.12kWh Lithium Battery with 100AH is a premium battery with only 16 prismatic 3.2V cells in series the typical 100+ AA-Style Lithium battery cells in series. This provides reliability and ruggedness outlasts other LiFePo4

www.signaturesolar.us

I am not affiliated with the battery co or signature solar. Just wanting to build a system in the next year. It seems like the equipment and batteries are changing so fast that it will be easy to be disappointed in a few months after building.
Cheers,
Eric

 

[euphonius]

Hey Will, I love your videos. Maybe I missed it but have you gotten your hands on one of these Gyll batteries? They look pretty amazing for the price.

lifepo4 lithium battery off grid solar

This Gyll 51.2V (48V) LiFePo4 5.12kWh Lithium Battery with 100AH is a premium battery with only 16 prismatic 3.2V cells in series the typical 100+ AA-Style Lithium battery cells in series. This provides reliability and ruggedness outlasts other LiFePo4

www.signaturesolar.us

I am not affiliated with the battery co or signature solar. Just wanting to build a system in the next year. It seems like the equipment and batteries are changing so fast that it will be easy to be disappointed in a few months after building.
Cheers,
Eric

 

[Will Prowse]

No one has sent me one yet. They are on backorder. I would love to.

I should have one in June.

 

[Hendo7]

another product that's going out of stock and up in price when he does
lol

 

[MrNatural22]

another product that's going out of stock and up in price when he does
lol

? Only if it passes the WP series of grueling but revealing performance, capacity and build quality tests.
Otherwise off to the reject files. ?

 

[Q-Dog]

Someone send me a free one and I'll do all the tests you guys want. Send me 2 of them and I'll let you all know how well they work in daily usage.

 

[JoeHam]

Send me 2 of them and I'll let you all know how well they work in daily usage.

I have one working daily but I could easily do two or more ?.

 

[Will Prowse]

Solar products always look amazing online or in youtubers videos, but time and time again I am let down. Gyll looks good, but only time and lots of testing will tell. I try my best to hold my excitement until after I have a product in my hands.

I am searching the forum for "gyll battery problems" and haven't found a thing yet. One person stated that the BMS was changing its own settings? But I do not believe he provided proof in that thread. But I am keeping my eyes out for any issues before I get my hands on one.

This week I was sent a promising all-in-one system, and it was complete garbage. So many dangerous design flaws. The company said they deserve one more chance. I was too busy to film a video anyways, so they will send me out a new unit. I cannot believe how many companies send me products that have a million problems. At least 50% of the products I test are let-downs these days ?

 

[McCarthy]

Solar products always look amazing online or in youtubers videos, but time and time again I am let down. Gyll looks good, but only time and lots of testing will tell. I try my best to hold my excitement until after I have a product in my hands.

I am searching the forum for "gyll battery problems" and haven't found a thing yet. One person stated that the BMS was changing its own settings? But I do not believe he provided proof in that thread. But I am keeping my eyes out for any issues before I get my hands on one.

This week I was sent a promising all-in-one system, and it was complete garbage. So many dangerous design flaws. The company said they deserve one more chance. I was to busy to film a video anyways, so they will send me out a new unit. I cannot believe how many companies send me products that have a million problems. At least 50% of the products I test are let-downs these days ?

How about we start designing and manufacturing our own batteries, controllers and chargers?

 

[Forbisher]

How about we start designing and manufacturing our own batteries, controllers and chargers?

Who is we?
That is a horrible idea for way too many reasons.

 

[McCarthy]

Who is we?
That is a horrible idea for way too many reasons.

Anybody who is an actual maker. I started my own manufacturing business in 2007 (unrelated to solar), my company is still around while I retired from operations after 7 years. My company sells through retail channels, to wholesale / dealers, and gov (mainly PDs and Army).

 

[daviddakers]

Solar products always look amazing online or in youtubers videos, but time and time again I am let down. Gyll looks good, but only time and lots of testing will tell. I try my best to hold my excitement until after I have a product in my hands.

I am searching the forum for "gyll battery problems" and haven't found a thing yet. One person stated that the BMS was changing its own settings? But I do not believe he provided proof in that thread. But I am keeping my eyes out for any issues before I get my hands on one.

This week I was sent a promising all-in-one system, and it was complete garbage. So many dangerous design flaws. The company said they deserve one more chance. I was to busy to film a video anyways, so they will send me out a new unit. I cannot believe how many companies send me products that have a million problems. At least 50% of the products I test are let-downs these days ?

Hope it wasn't an LVX-6048...

 

[JRam]

I've seen quite a few Gyll lookalikes at Alibaba. Are they clones, rebrands, rip-offs? who knows but they have the same form factor!

 

[Anit767]

No one has sent me one yet. They are on backorder. I would love to.

I should have one in June.

Will, I’m looking for a 5kw 48v lifepo4. I’m willing to put some work into it. What’s my best option right now? Ali express or used cells or battery hookup? Thanks for your time!

 

[JoeHam]

I would suggest GYLL or DIY via Michael Caro as your best bets.

Lishen 270ah-272ah cell group buy.

Ok, this will be a longish post but I want to lay some foundation before taking orders on these cells. Eve 280ah cells appear to only be available at this point from suppliers that want a premium price for them From everything I can find, Lishen is extremely popular in China but has yet to get...

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[Anit767]

I would suggest GYLL or DIY via Michael Caro as your best bets.

Lishen 270ah-272ah cell group buy.

Ok, this will be a longish post but I want to lay some foundation before taking orders on these cells. Eve 280ah cells appear to only be available at this point from suppliers that want a premium price for them From everything I can find, Lishen is extremely popular in China but has yet to get...

diysolarforum.com

Thanks!

 

[Skid]

There are several systems in Nicaragua using 2 Growatt 3k inverters and 4 Gyll batteries and they have posted no complaints so far. I know of two new installations nearby and while I don't know them some friends do. One day I'll go check them out.

 

[BrickedKeyboard]

@Will Prowse Just FYI, I found a youtube video comment that let me down the following rabbit hole. It appears all the "Gyll" and "VGlory" and "Seplos" are just rebrands of what I think is the real manufacturer, meritsun.

My evidence for this is pages like this :

Lithium Ion Battery Rechargeable Batteries Pack 48V 200ah Lifepo4 Battery Free Meritsun Customizable Sealed-MERITSUN

Lithium Ion Battery Rechargeable Batteries Pack 48V 200ah Lifepo4 Battery Free Meritsun Customizable Sealed:

www.meritsunpower.com

Products list direct from CN

Main products Powerwall/LiFePO4 Battery/Lithium Battery Pack, BMS and 558 more Products from Guangzhou Meritech Power Co., Ltd. on Alibaba.com

meritsun.en.alibaba.com

It looks like the "Gyll" brand is a particular combination of options, one that does not have the nice LCD display you can get from the available options.

Obviously if you buy direct from Meritsun you might be able to get a better price. But you need to order 10+ in a batch, though they seem to have a sample of 1 option, and likely for economical shipping you would have to order a pallet by container.

Anyways these Meritsun batteries appear to obsolete the DIY route if we can get them at anywhere close to what the manufacturer is selling them for without shipping, ~$880 for 5 kwh. That's with a metal box, all the work of wiring it up, the plastic tray that protects from shorts, the circuit breaker, the RS485 interface board and temperature sensors.

Which makes perfect sense - you can't really buy all the parts for any consumer product and assemble it yourself for noticeably less than you can buy the complete package. Manufacturers have all sorts of tools and parts you can't easily buy, they need very little labor to mass produce something, and so on.

At these prices if we can get them in quantity it would be almost cheaper to just junk a bad battery if it fails, again similar to most manufactured products that are marginally worth fixing.

 

[Skid]

Gyll is selling the convenience of -sometimes- instant availability and US backing should something go wrong, for a price. A contractor here in Nicaragua gets them, I'm sure at a good discount, a dozen at a time.
I expect a custom built 200ah 48v battery any time now using 16 matched CATL 202ah cells, JBD 150a BMS, metal cases (split in two for easier handling) for $1380. The cells alone would cost around $1150. $230 for the BMS, matching, 6 days testing, cases, cables and assembly seems a heck of a deal. I hope it's as good as promised. I'll soon know.

 

[Will Prowse]

There are plans from multiple distributors to supply the gyll batteries. I am sure we will see a lot of them soon.

And yes, they are relabeled packs.

 

[Hanker777]

Anyone see or know where I can find the manual for this FLAVOR (Version) of the GYLL 51.2Volt 100 AH battery ?
I bought them from a small solar dealer who had ordered them from Signature Solar. The local dealer sent me a soft copy of the "user manual Version 1" Not the manual for this unit.
Searched for manuals / Forum info / Google searches for one that looks like this. Cant find one.. It is different in that it has dual ++ -- connections so as to be able to buss a stack of these together without using a Buss Bar / cabinet config. That's the simple part.. What I am looking for is info on the other RJ45 ports. The original units pictured on the web site and in David Poz YouTube Video have two RS485 (BMS Ports ) that could connect to a PC via a USB adapter or to an inverter that is configured to understand the version of the BMS protocol. In a stack of these would could daisy chain the two RS485 ports and connect to all the BMS's in the stack.
Now, they have 4 RJ45 ports, one labeled RS485, another CAN and two newly labeled Battery-Comm ports. are these Battery-Comm ports just another BMS to BMS interface so that with one connection to the RS485 port to a PC via the USB adapter you could runnthe BMStools app and see ALL battery packs that are interconnected.
I am waiting on the USB adapter to try the connection to my laptop running the BMStools app and see if the Battery-Comm ports allow the software to see ALL packs.
Any one else have these FLAVOR of the GYLL 48V 100AH ( 51.2V100AH) 5120WH batteries ?

Thanks in advance,
Hank

 

[Hanker777]

Anyone seen this version of the GyLL 51.2V 100AH battery , It has two additional RJ45 ports.
Looking for documentation on the battery.

 

[Supervstech]

View attachment 48940
Anyone see or know where I can find the manual for this FLAVOR (Version) of the GYLL 51.2Volt 100 AH battery ?
I bought them from a small solar dealer who had ordered them from Signature Solar. The local dealer sent me a soft copy of the "user manual Version 1" Not the manual for this unit.
Searched for manuals / Forum info / Google searches for one that looks like this. Cant find one.. It is different in that it has dual ++ -- connections so as to be able to buss a stack of these together without using a Buss Bar / cabinet config. That's the simple part.. What I am looking for is info on the other RJ45 ports. The original units pictured on the web site and in David Poz YouTube Video have two RS485 (BMS Ports ) that could connect to a PC via a USB adapter or to an inverter that is configured to understand the version of the BMS protocol. In a stack of these would could daisy chain the two RS485 ports and connect to all the BMS's in the stack.
Now, they have 4 RJ45 ports, one labeled RS485, another CAN and two newly labeled Battery-Comm ports. are these Battery-Comm ports just another BMS to BMS interface so that with one connection to the RS485 port to a PC via the USB adapter you could runnthe BMStools app and see ALL battery packs that are interconnected.
I am waiting on the USB adapter to try the connection to my laptop running the BMStools app and see if the Battery-Comm ports allow the software to see ALL packs.
Any one else have these FLAVOR of the GYLL 48V 100AH ( 51.2V100AH) 5120WH batteries ?

Thanks in advance,
Hank

This thread has links to builders and videos showing builds etc... maybe something in there will help.

Are Vglory Batteries the same as Gyll Batteries

wondering if these two batteries are the same because they look like they are I',m wondering if anyone bought them? and how good are they? gyll 48v battery https://www.signaturesolar.us/products/h7590c9c2a/2203789000006324403 this looks the same as the gyll 48v battery...

diysolarforum.com

 

[tlrwssolar]

This thread has links to builders and videos showing builds etc... maybe something in there will help.

Are Vglory Batteries the same as Gyll Batteries

wondering if these two batteries are the same because they look like they are I',m wondering if anyone bought them? and how good are they? gyll 48v battery https://www.signaturesolar.us/products/h7590c9c2a/2203789000006324403 this looks the same as the gyll 48v battery...

diysolarforum.com

View attachment 48940
Anyone see or know where I can find the manual for this FLAVOR (Version) of the GYLL 51.2Volt 100 AH battery ?
I bought them from a small solar dealer who had ordered them from Signature Solar. The local dealer sent me a soft copy of the "user manual Version 1" Not the manual for this unit.
Searched for manuals / Forum info / Google searches for one that looks like this. Cant find one.. It is different in that it has dual ++ -- connections so as to be able to buss a stack of these together without using a Buss Bar / cabinet config. That's the simple part.. What I am looking for is info on the other RJ45 ports. The original units pictured on the web site and in David Poz YouTube Video have two RS485 (BMS Ports ) that could connect to a PC via a USB adapter or to an inverter that is configured to understand the version of the BMS protocol. In a stack of these would could daisy chain the two RS485 ports and connect to all the BMS's in the stack.
Now, they have 4 RJ45 ports, one labeled RS485, another CAN and two newly labeled Battery-Comm ports. are these Battery-Comm ports just another BMS to BMS interface so that with one connection to the RS485 port to a PC via the USB adapter you could runnthe BMStools app and see ALL battery packs that are interconnected.
I am waiting on the USB adapter to try the connection to my laptop running the BMStools app and see if the Battery-Comm ports allow the software to see ALL packs.
Any one else have these FLAVOR of the GYLL 48V 100AH ( 51.2V100AH) 5120WH batteries ?

Thanks in advance,
Hank

Any having problem with the Bmstool app to connect to the gyll pack? I have watched all video and check all connections are correct but still will communicate.

 

[Will Prowse]

Solar products always look amazing online or in youtubers videos, but time and time again I am let down. Gyll looks good, but only time and lots of testing will tell. I try my best to hold my excitement until after I have a product in my hands.

I am searching the forum for "gyll battery problems" and haven't found a thing yet. One person stated that the BMS was changing its own settings? But I do not believe he provided proof in that thread. But I am keeping my eyes out for any issues before I get my hands on one.

This week I was sent a promising all-in-one system, and it was complete garbage. So many dangerous design flaws. The company said they deserve one more chance. I was too busy to film a video anyways, so they will send me out a new unit. I cannot believe how many companies send me products that have a million problems. At least 50% of the products I test are let-downs these days ?

Sorry for all the spelling errors in this post. I was using my phone to type that out. Oops