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New EVE Cell at RE+ 2023: LF 560K (628Ah Cell)

I have built a 48v 302ah battery using CATL cells for our rv. These come out I may build a battery or two or three for the house.
 
Brand new class of 628Ah cells, few competitors (in this size) in the market = premium price I suspect.
guess we just have to wait and see.
 
"CATL also developed a new superconducting electrolyte formula which effectively reduces the viscosity of the electrolyte, resulting in improved conductivity."

So does this operate at liquid nitrogen temperature, like "High temperature superconductors", or do I need liquid helium?


"At room temperature, Shenxing can charge to 80% SOC in 10 minutes. Meanwhile, CATL leverages cell temperature control technology on system platforms to ensure that cells heat up to the optimal operating temperature range rapidly, allowing a 0-80% charge in just 30 minutes in temperature as low as -10°C"

Well, they are giving temperatures in C not K.

Fast charge below freezing sounds like a breakthrough for EV, if price and volume fit that market.
 
"CATL also developed a new superconducting electrolyte formula which effectively reduces the viscosity of the electrolyte, resulting in improved conductivity."

So does this operate at liquid nitrogen temperature, like "High temperature superconductors", or do I need liquid helium?


"At room temperature, Shenxing can charge to 80% SOC in 10 minutes. Meanwhile, CATL leverages cell temperature control technology on system platforms to ensure that cells heat up to the optimal operating temperature range rapidly, allowing a 0-80% charge in just 30 minutes in temperature as low as -10°C"

Well, they are giving temperatures in C not K.

Fast charge below freezing sounds like a breakthrough for EV, if price and volume fit that market.
It sounds like that is leveraging the heating/cooling system of the overall pack "leverages cell temperature control technology on systems platforms to ensure cells heat up..."

If 4C charge rate becomes common then the 1C stuff of today should get nice and cheap.
 
High discharge cells have been around for a long time. I have some ~9 year old 180Ah LFP cells that are rated for 3C continuous and 10C pulse.
 
Will remain here. Double the 280ah price seems fair from my end, bc has 12000 cycles instead of 6000, so the price for W of the lifespan of the cells will be cheaper! Will see
 
Alibaba has them at about 125 per. Does not include tax,license and dealer prep.
 
Getting 560Ah x 3.4V x 16s = 30kWh for $125 x 16 = $2000 is approaching "game changer"
At such capacity & prices I might not even feel like a shmuck paying ~$800 for REC SI BMS.

How much again does the dealer charge for undercoat, paperwork, all that other stuff I don't really care about?
 
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Getting 560Ah x 3.4V x 16s = 30kWh for $125 x 16 = $2000 is approaching "game changer"
At such capacity & prices I might not even feel like a shmuck paying ~$800 for REC SI BMS.

How much again does the dealer charge for undercoat, paperwork, all that other stuff I don't really care about?
Whatever they can con you into paying.
 
But in the case of these 560Ah cells on Alibaba, how much more for DDP to the US when buying 16?
(or since not actually available yet, how much for 13 pieces 280 Ah, which would be similar size and weight?)
 
The cell dimensions are going to lead to new configurations, ie not a server rack form.
Maybe more trouble than it's worth for a home ESS.
Meanwhile, I am watching for the early adopters to get some of these cells and report back on all these questions we have!
where is that @Danke guy that always seems to get stuff no one else can? - what are these new cells like? how do you build a pack for them?
 
You could still do server rack, but 24V module or 12V module per unit. Slightly different harness and busbar/jumper configuration.
Just like BYD has stackable HV batteries.
 
When I see 560Ah cells, I don't automatically think of 12v or 24v - you could though.
Maybe better for some applications than paralleling up smaller cell packs.
 
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