MrM1
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I did move them out into a shed, but if we got a fire from them, that building might catch the main building.
They really are a mess.
CATL 271Ah cell issues.
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They really are a mess.
I haven't heard from Micheal since the 5th and you can see his last online date was sunday night.
I would worry too much about the cells catching fire. LiFePo4 is one of the safest chemistries. If they survived the punishment of shipping in that condition, they'll be fine sitting undisturbed.
I would worry too much about the cells catching fire. LiFePo4 is one of the safest chemistries. If they survived the punishment of shipping in that condition, they'll be fine sitting undisturbed.
Not necessarily fire but the fumes from the electrolyte are probably not healthy.
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Not unless you can read Chinese? Looks like it was shipped to an intermediary in California.
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This is not good. Does anyone have Michaels number? I left a note on bigbossbattery.com, and a direct conversation to no avail.
Why would he sit on vacation while all this is happening? ( is he related to Biden?)
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Curious as to whether anyone who has received CATL 271ah cells from these recent shipments (that are not too badly damaged) has done any top balancing or capacity testing to see if they are legit 271ah?
Nobody said he was on vacation. I am hoping he is ok because this isn't like him.
Just wondering if that is a good idea? All of them seem to have been thrown off of Mt. Everest I wonder if there could be internal damage that would not be readily evident?
To add on to this, I've ordered from him in past as well and believe him to be an honest person so I wouldn't worry along those lines.. The last time he was away for a while he had some health issues and was in hospital so I hope everything is okay and people can be a little more forgiving even though I know it is hard being in a position not knowing what is going on.
He was here Sunday but didn't post anything. He knows what is happening. Time for refunds. What is his phone number?
You don't actually know that for sure.. one of his browser windows could simply have been left open at diysolarforum and his computer woke up for whatever reason...
Where are his daughter and son that he's training or bringing up to speed. They probably come to the forum. A simple were on this don't worry would help
I agree having a "fall back" plan to keep customers in loop should be a priority.. we don't want scenes like this:
Agree. Sorry
They have a website if you want to try and reach out to get some answers:
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www.dfssuperstore.com
Sanwizard
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The boxes are packed in China, not in the US. Its the Chinese supplier that is causing the issues.They have a website if you want to try and reach out to get some answers:
Contact | dfssuperstore
Presumably someone at the intermediary saw the boxes though and knew what was in them.
Tough luck on these stories. I wonder if there’s a lesson to be learned from this of dealing with reputable vendors with a reputation they need to uphold instead of a fly by night guy offering group buys on some forum. Sometimes price isn’t the only concern.
By the looks of it lots of illegal shipments were sent out, all lithium batteries need proper hazmat identification, no? I wonder if shippers are now going after either the seller or the buyers for the liability. Ever order a lithium battery for your cordless drill from Home Depot or small 18650 powered usb bank from Amazon? I picked up a small hand held fan that has a 3000mah 18650 cell and it was properly labeled.
By the looks of it lots of illegal shipments were sent out, all lithium batteries need proper hazmat identification, no? I wonder if shippers are now going after either the seller or the buyers for the liability. Ever order a lithium battery for your cordless drill from Home Depot or small 18650 powered usb bank from Amazon? I picked up a small hand held fan that has a 3000mah 18650 cell and it was properly labeled.
Just to be clear, the person who this group buy went through has done this for quite a while on this forum with many happy customers including myself.
I want to mirror that. Many of us have been watching this forum for a long time now. We only put down our money after trust was developed. If someone requested a refund, they quickly reported that it was received. Others receiving the products they requested were quick to comment on their satisfaction.
Michael is a business person. He offered a fair price for a product. It was up to the customer to choose to buy. There was never any pressure. The deal was there for the taking or leaving.
If there ever was an intent to do harm, this would have happened a long time ago. From all of my readings over a number of months, this never happened. It would be easier if Michael were able to speak to these supply issues. However, knowing the long hours I have observed him present on this forum in the past, there has to be a sound reason for the silence. Given that he was in the hospital in the past, one can only hope that he is well.
Yes I am nervous. I also ordered the CATL cells and they are on the way. From the sounds of things, one of the distributors decided to cut corners. This was at the source in China. I have confidence that this will eventually be ironed out. How long that takes remains a question.
This is not the first time there have been problems with orders. In the past, there were reports that he provided batteries from his own stock. He was more than the typical middleman. Those who have been following this thread and others for long time have noted this as well.
Michael is a business person. He offered a fair price for a product. It was up to the customer to choose to buy. There was never any pressure. The deal was there for the taking or leaving.
If there ever was an intent to do harm, this would have happened a long time ago. From all of my readings over a number of months, this never happened. It would be easier if Michael were able to speak to these supply issues. However, knowing the long hours I have observed him present on this forum in the past, there has to be a sound reason for the silence. Given that he was in the hospital in the past, one can only hope that he is well.
Yes I am nervous. I also ordered the CATL cells and they are on the way. From the sounds of things, one of the distributors decided to cut corners. This was at the source in China. I have confidence that this will eventually be ironed out. How long that takes remains a question.
This is not the first time there have been problems with orders. In the past, there were reports that he provided batteries from his own stock. He was more than the typical middleman. Those who have been following this thread and others for long time have noted this as well.
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"Past performance is no guarantee of future results”
IMO he is a middleman with no skin in the game of what random stuff was shipping to fill his orders it seemed like the risk was all on the buyer and there all along waiting for this to happen.
IMO he is a middleman with no skin in the game of what random stuff was shipping to fill his orders it seemed like the risk was all on the buyer and there all along waiting for this to happen.
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Looking closer at the boxes, these look like they were either in an accident, or fell off the back of a truck. Did the container fall? They were obviously re-taped by someone. Did they not want their insurance company notified? Something is way off. The fact that there is no warning sticker for lithium batteries, also means they did not pay a hazmat charge, and the shipment was illegal?
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